• MagicShel@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    I think there is a lot this fails to capture because certain things are unprecedented. Michigan’s GOP is in utter disarray and it isn’t the only one. And overturning Roe v Wade has energized the left and disillusioned whatever center remains.

    Now these facts are baked into the polling already, so obviously that’s a big concern, but I believe this means polling is too far right across the board. I think who makes up likely voters has shifted. RvW drew in younger voters and I think now that they are engaged they will remain so.

    Time will tell. I’ve seen far less Trump support this year than I did in 2020, which yeah is anecdotal, but I think it’s an indicator. Of course, even if I’m correct, Michigan isn’t going to carry the election alone, and it looks like the rest of the rust belt is further to the right.

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    I am legitimately scared for my safety with the upcoming election. I’m trans and if Trump tries to take my HRT away I will end my life. It would be the final straw so to speak. I will not be forced to live a lie.

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    5 months ago

    I just put together a model, and it predicts a 77% chance of the Hamburgler winning in 2024.

    Go vote. That’s the only thing that matters.

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    Same models from 2008-2020, at this point in the cycle, it had Hillary winning, and Biden winning, both by a decent margin.

    I think it depends what the campaigns do with this information. Coast, or fight harder?

    Vote vote vote. (Just once though).

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    Young people don’t answer polling calls, and I’m personally expecting the highest under 30 vote turnout ever. No one can predict where this will go.

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    Remember, Nate Silver predicted that Hillary Clinton would win in 2016, and when Trump won instead, it was chalked up to the fact that it really was a random chance.

    Don’t panic about this. Keep quiet and keep doing the work to get Trump thrown out. And charge your mental health bills to the Democrats, for putting up an old man up for election in 2020, one who’s even older than Trump, in the first place.

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Trump does still lead in our national average — however narrowly. But the bigger problem for Biden though is that elections in the United States aren’t determined by the popular vote.

    That’s a problem for all of us. If the president were elected by popular vote, Trump would never have been president.

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      Neither would George W. Bush. Republicans have won the popular vote only once in the last 32 years, and that was Bush as the incumbent in 2004 - which wouldn’t have happened had Gore been the incumbent.

      This is a center-left country, with an election system that gives extreme right-wingers oversized influence.

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          The left is larger than the right, here. How does that make it not a center-left country? We’re sure as hell not a right-wing country, and much of our government is an accident of antiquated and stupid systems, not a true reflection of the people.

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            Those that think they are on the left is larger. When they support politicians viewed around the world as right wing, they too are right wing

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    In 2022, Dem strategist Simon Rosenberg flatly asserted that there would be no “red wave” and the Dems would overperform expectations.

    Nate Silver said the only way Rosenberg could come to that conclusion was that he’d been ingesting “hopium.”

    Rosenberg was right. Silver was wrong (though he’ll die before admitting it).

    Then Rosenberg started The Hopium Chronicles, which I suggest you read

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      Party strategists always say their party is going to do well. It’s part of their job. I don’t think this is particularly meaningful, unless you think there’s some particular methodology he has access to that’s better than Silver’s.