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    3 months ago

    Let’s try to make a list of where America went wrong

    1. The Louisiana Purchase: turned the nation into an expansionist empire.

    2. Andrew Jackson ignoring the rule of law so he could genocide the natives

    3. Lincoln keeping Johnson as his VP while at war with the south.

    4. Ending reconstruction early

    5. FDR not hanging the conspirators in the business plot

    6. Nixon using the Southern Strategy to win his election

    7. Ford pardoning Nixon

    8. Everything Ronald Reagan did

    9. Ruby Ridge, Waco, and NAFTA radicalization of rural Americans

    10. Supreme Court awards GWB the presidency

    11. The Iraq War

    12. Unregulated banks allowed to crash the global economy

    13. Limited US involvement in the Arab Spring fails to capitalize on popular movement, Syrian refugee crisis sends far right into overdrive

    14. Allowing the host of celebrity apprentice to be President

    15. Ignoring the COVID pandemic until it’s too late then not locking down hard enough.

    16. Supporting Israeli genocide in Gaza

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        3 months ago

        Clinton’s telecom act did more damage to public knowledge and information than the fairness doctrine

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      3 months ago

      So, when are you getting involved into politics and changing things? I swear, some of you make it sound like you know better than all of our political leaders throughout history… it makes you wonder, with all these leaders making these “horrible” decisions, why is the US still one of the strongest countries in the world, and people are risking their lives to get here?

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    It doesn’t make sense to start at Reagan.

    Reagan happened because conservatives realized people don’t like conservatives.

    So they invented Faux News (memo in Nixon’s presidential library) so that voters would never hold Republicans accountable again, and then started running charismatic figureheads to eventually take the fall years after leaving office.

    Blaming Reagan (who is undoubtedly a piece of shit) is letting the real problem off the hook.

    I don’t remember Reagan, but I remember GW, and it was the same thing. When we’re finally rid of trump, the next will be even worse, and still taking orders from the same conservative machine that was feeding Reagan his talking points.

    So hate Reagan all you want, but don’t forget to hate the other people who were actually the ones in control. Because that machine is still running, it’s the one behind project 2025, not trump’s dumbass.

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          3 months ago

          That is… haunting. We should probably do something as civilians with collective action, but their propaganda has made that really hard.

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            3 months ago

            Ignorance is bliss, but it doesn’t solve shit.

            Just mentioning that The Family isnt solely focused on republicans got me a down vote almost immediately.

            Before we can fix this, we have to get people to acknowledge the problem. Otherwise we never truly win, just lose less sometimes

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              Its one of those obstacles that appears insurmountable. They have all the money, influence, and power that they could ever ask for. What are we to do?

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                3 months ago

                For now everyone still gets one vote.

                It’s too late to get anything going for 2024, maybe even 2028.

                But at some point we really need someone outside the two parties while we still have one vote each. We can’t just keep blindly voting our “team” no matter what, especially when our “team” doesn’t represent us.

                It’s going to suck, and it’s going to be turbulent. But if we don’t do it, we’ll keep sliding right till there’s no more elections. I don’t think progressives are going to be able to take over the Dem party, I think there’s going to have to be an actual party split for a real solution.

                I just hope people start planning more than one election ahead before it’s too late.

                We’re fighting people that plan decades ahead. We’ll never win unless we do the same.

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    3 months ago

    “Only two people hate America. Those who have never been here, and those who have never left…”