Which is the best phone company in terms of consistently putting out good phone products.

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    1 year ago

    If you are looking for no fuss (and no bloatware), check out Fairphone. They provide OS updates for at least 5 years, and with the last one they say it will receive updates for even longer.

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    Sony. Often overlooked, but very solid smartphones. Maybe because they aren’t as sharply priced as a lot of the competition.

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      Fucking hate Sony. Had an Xperia and the bloatware was over the top. Main issue is Sony is priced higher than other OEM but with less specs. Just over itself. Sick of conglomerates

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        Compared to Samsung and some other brands, it actually doesn’t have a lot of bloatware. Very rarely had any issues with the Xperia I had.

        I might buy a Pixel in the future though. Or a Fairphone. Would be cool if Framework started making smartphones.

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        I had a bunch of Xperias and never encountered any bloat, battery life was great. Unfortunately lately only the top of the line is decent, I had an Xperia 10 and it absolutely sucked, it was the last of 5 consecutive Xperias I bought.

      • Gray@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Geez downvoted for an opinion.

        Sony has good hardware but it does come with Facebook, OneDrive, LinkedIn, Call of Duty, and a few more. It absolutely has bloatware.

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          I’m writing this from my Xperia. It doesn’t have CoD or OneDrive. It has Facebook, but so does every mainstream phone. Only extremely niche, privacy-focused manufacturers don’t have Facebook at this point.

          It has LinkedIn, but I have had to use that professionally and would have installed it anyways. It’s similar to Facebook where only niche manufacturers don’t have it. Compared to Google, Samsung, and Apple, Sony phones are pretty clean. Compared to niche companies like Fairphone, yes Sony has more bloat.

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            1 year ago

            Just FYI, Google pixels do not come with Facebook or LinkedIn, or any third party apps for that matter. Apple doesn’t either. I think that depends on your carrier. If you buy the phones unlocked from their official stores, they usually come clean.

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      Love my Xperia 1 IV. Had a couple Pixels before this. Those were great but the Sony hardware feels superior in every way.

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    The iPhone is pretty good. :)

    Jk, you might want to checkout the “Pixel” line, the manufacturers vary but it’s basically the flagship Android phone.

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      Yeah, Pixels are great, basically reference Android. Developers even usually use them for testing and making apps, so you know you’re getting the best compatibility. Overall can’t recommend them enough.

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    Dropping in with another recommendation for the Pixel line. They’re very solid phones without a lot of bloat (just Google apps, most of which can be removed easily if you want) and excellent cameras. They get decent support for software updates, and work pretty much flawlessly. I’m on the Pixel 6 Pro now, but I still have my Pixel 1 and 3 Pro, and aside from a swollen battery on one (which is cheaply fixed), they still all work incredibly well.

    If you’re into rooting, they’re also very easily rooted compared to a lot of other brands. But the stock experience has been great for me, as is.

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      a swollen battery on one

      That is a ticking bomb. Fix it or get rid of it, because it can burn your house down and take you with it.

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      Seconding the Fairphone.

      FP4 is coming to America in Q4, I ordered one from the EU last year and it will work just fine everywhere else in the world, it has quirks in the US.

      Enjoy your organic smart phone.

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    I just buy mid-range Xiaomi phones, unlock them and install LineageOS. So far, so good.

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      I’ve thought about doing this, but I’m worried about banking, payment, stocks (and other similarly picky) apps flipping the table when they notice it’s a rooted device.

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        Yes, this may be a concern. I’ve bee relatively lucky using magisk + microg, but unfortunately YMMV.

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        Been having good luck with graphineos but you really need a pixel since they don’t really support anything else.

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        Yea, I’ve been through that, banking apps and payment apps definitely don’t like that. When I did that they weren’t that well-used, but now I wouldn’t go that way.

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      Oh yes, definitely this. I’ve just done this for the first time ever two weeks ago on a 5 year old xiaomi redmi note 7, and this ancient thing is suddenly a beast again! Everything is suddenly so smooth and fast without all that bloatware and spyware

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      Even their old flagships are still quite good. I’m currently daily driving two 7 years old Mi6 phones with Lineage, because you just can’t find a small phone nowadays.

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    To me personally: Google and their Pixel phones! I am now on my 3rd Pixel phone (3a, 4, 7) and each and every one of those phones where just really good phones! Great build quality, features that worked and great cameras; I had other phones that I liked a lot (most notably the Oneplus 3 and to a certain degree the Oneplus 1) but none of them felt so well rounded as my current Pixel 7. I have to use a midrange Samsung for work and it is just awful compared to the also midrange Pixel 3a I had! One lags constantly, installs the same bloat everytime I update it, takes average to bad photos and is missing stuff I have come to appreciate on my phone. My old 3a was working until just recently and until the end it just felt smooth to use it.

    I guess Apple should be mentioned too. Not a fan personally but their hardware is really well made and a lot of people love ios.

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      I’ve owned two Google phones (original XL and the pixel 4 XL) and both died at about 2 years. It may have just been bad luck, but it soured my whole outlook on them.

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        The ones I’ve used that trickled into my family:

        • OG Pixel XL, alive, retired
        • 3 XL, alive, in active use
        • 3a XL, alive, in active use
        • 5, alive in active use
        • 6a, alive in active use
        • 6 Pro, alive in active use

        I’m debating between Fairphone 5 and a Pixel 8 Pro for my next. It depends on FP5’s camera performance and it’s frequency band allocation for Canada, as well as Pixel 8 Pro’s battery performance. I could keep my 6 Pro too as it works flawlessly.

      • ɐɥO@lemmy.ohaa.xyz
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        I have a pixel 2 xl thats still alive after 5 years. my current phone is a Pixel 5 from 2021

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    OnePlus is usually pretty good for this. Their OS is mostly default Android and the parts that are theirs aren’t intrusive.

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      I would have agreed 4 years ago, but idk about now. They’ve been increasingly “Oppo-fied” and I’m having more issues with my 8 Pro now on A14 than I did on A11. Camera apps not working, different keyboard issues, constant Bluetooth disconnects, apps opening and then insta-closing. It’s frustrating AF.

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        Edit- Android 14 is still in beta so that’s a very poor example.

        It’s also possible your phone is simply defect, do you have confirmation others have similar problems?

        Is that an official update from One Plus? Because that’s more than 3 years old model, and usually they only give 2-3 updates, meaning it should end with Android 12 or 13.

        Edit: It can’t be official since the phone is 3+ years old, and Android 14 is in beta.

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        Mostly DEFAULT Android, which is true.

        Default is also sometimes called vanilla. Both meaning without changes from the original.

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        Most phone manufactures create their own version of Android. Usually they are pretty full of useless junk and a ton of UI changes. By saying “mostly Android” you’re urually saying “mostly [original] Android”.

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        Their ROM is dubbed OxygenOS. They have a custom launcher and a couple of custom apps but it mostly stays out of your way

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    Honestly enjoying the Asus zen phone, nex to no bloatware, more or less stock android, great battery and easy to open and root

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      I really want to get one, mainly because of the smaller size. The only thing holding me back is lack of video out over USB-C. If they had that, it’d be perfect for me.

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    Honestly you can get any android, look up how to remove DT Updater and remove all the carrier bloatware you’ll be fine. Or if you can get a rooted one.

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    Motorola is basically just stock Android with an app to control special Motorola features like the Karate LED.

    One Plus is without bloatware too, but they have their own OS, which some like some don’t.

    The current lineup looks very sweet IMO. Nord 3 Lite is crazy value, Nord 3 is a very well rounded 85% flagship at half the price. One Plus 11 takes the final step IMO to flagship performance but 25-33% cheaper.

    Of course the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra is a tad better than the One Plus 11, but that’s also twice the price.

    I’m currently looking for an excuse to buy Either the Nord 3 or the One Plus 11. Although my current phone (Motorola) works great. 😋