btw if windows 10 dies, windows 11 will be forced on windows users, which is like 10000x times worse (personal experience). This is why i want to switch to linux when i get a decent computer (no, that linux distro i choose can’t be further from the “linux will run on everything” quote)
I’ve used windows 11 once on a mini PC just because that is what was preinstalled and I needed to make sure everything worked. My first impressions of the core UI was actually kinda good except it’s windows, so you know literally none of the apps are going to follow the same design, so it really does not matter. I promptly put OPNsense on the miniPC as soon as I saw the 2 NICs show up in device manager.
Exactly my point. Some of it looks nice like KDE, but the rest is just a mashup of different design languages and philosophies that do not mesh together. The disk utility comes to mind as one that is pretty horrible for how important it is.
win11 is a major improvement tbh.
process scheduling doesnt suck as much as it used to and bluetooth has AAC support (win10 only has sbc which sounds bad)
defender is much harder to get rid of though (but you can still get rid of almost all online features and telemetry including ms accounts using group policies as long as you have Enterprise or a LTS version)
privacy is even more nonexistent, everything is cluttered and the gui is very inconsistent. And for me, bluetooth usually doesn’t work at all after updating for win11
bt is not as good on linux (takes like 10 seconds to pick up my earbuds after i take them out vs up to 2 seconds on linux) but its still a major improvement. the new tiling seems pretty cool but eh didnt end up using it. virtual desktops and dual monitors work a lot better although switching desktops can break taskbar icons (and that bug still hasnt been fixed since release)
For me, preinstalled windows 11 cannot connect to my android phone through bluetooth. Was afraid its hardware incompatibility but it just works in linux
You wouldn’t? It shipped with The KDE-Dragonized version or whatever it’s called. I assumed you used that version because it’s the most popular version. I was asking if the Garuda devs still ship latte dock with the KDE edition.
Chipping in, I have no idea what Garuda is, but I also hated working with Fedora, probably because I started off on Debian-based systems and couldn’t wrap my head around Fedora.
Bazzite, being an immutable distro, is intended where you shouldn’t need to use the Fedora package manager, so you instead install applications sandboxed like AppImages, flatpaks, etc. I’ve been fine with this for my gaming PC, but currently I still use and prefer Debian (LMDE) for my study laptop because I have easier control over it.
Overall it comes down to what you want out of your computer and what works best for you, that’s the beauty with Linux, but I thought I’d chip in and mention not to write off Bazzite for being Fedora based, as someone who couldn’t get behind Fedora.
I might consider that actually, I was trying to use secureblue instead of LMDE for the better security, and this was part of why I gave up on it. Cheers!
It’s awesome. The packages don’t matter because you use distro box if there’s not a flatpak that works already. I have an Ubuntu distro box for tools for things that don’t work on fedora.
It uses ublueos for an immutable which is rock solid. Idk how to explain it well, but it’s the only distro I want anymore.
If u do end up trying it and find a package that doesn’t work, ping me and I’ll get you a command you can run to do it
The root filesystem is immutable, not the entire filesystem. So when you do upgrades and things it’s super easy to roll back and you never need to rebuild your entire OS if a package is messed up or something.
Tbh I’m not great at explaining it, I’d just look up a YouTube video for it.
I believe bazzite is on btrfs by default. I just like the concept of a read only root filesystem. It helps make everything more stable so far for me personally
btw if windows 10 dies, windows 11 will be forced on windows users, which is like 10000x times worse (personal experience). This is why i want to switch to linux when i get a decent computer (no, that linux distro i choose can’t be further from the “linux will run on everything” quote)
I’ve used windows 11 once on a mini PC just because that is what was preinstalled and I needed to make sure everything worked. My first impressions of the core UI was actually kinda good except it’s windows, so you know literally none of the apps are going to follow the same design, so it really does not matter. I promptly put OPNsense on the miniPC as soon as I saw the 2 NICs show up in device manager.
the ui is very inconsistent on windows. You can have a time travel when browsing through the settings
Exactly my point. Some of it looks nice like KDE, but the rest is just a mashup of different design languages and philosophies that do not mesh together. The disk utility comes to mind as one that is pretty horrible for how important it is.
win11 is a major improvement tbh.
process scheduling doesnt suck as much as it used to and bluetooth has AAC support (win10 only has sbc which sounds bad)
defender is much harder to get rid of though (but you can still get rid of almost all online features and telemetry including ms accounts using group policies as long as you have Enterprise or a LTS version)
privacy is even more nonexistent, everything is cluttered and the gui is very inconsistent. And for me, bluetooth usually doesn’t work at all after updating for win11
bt is not as good on linux (takes like 10 seconds to pick up my earbuds after i take them out vs up to 2 seconds on linux) but its still a major improvement. the new tiling seems pretty cool but eh didnt end up using it. virtual desktops and dual monitors work a lot better although switching desktops can break taskbar icons (and that bug still hasnt been fixed since release)
For me, preinstalled windows 11 cannot connect to my android phone through bluetooth. Was afraid its hardware incompatibility but it just works in linux
For me it is way less pain to set up and work using linux than…, …that…
Use bazzite when you do. It’s awesome
better than Garuda? Bazzite is based on Fedora. I used fedora, and hated it. Basically no selection between packages, it only has a very few amount
Does Garuda still use latte dock? I recall that project being dead.
since when it is dead… It is still an active project with thousands of users, the forum is also active. what is latte dock btw?
I meant latte dock is dead. It’s a Mac OS-like dock.
why would i need that
You wouldn’t? It shipped with The KDE-Dragonized version or whatever it’s called. I assumed you used that version because it’s the most popular version. I was asking if the Garuda devs still ship latte dock with the KDE edition.
i looked up, and no, they no longer use it. It is a rolling release, so it evolves fast
Chipping in, I have no idea what Garuda is, but I also hated working with Fedora, probably because I started off on Debian-based systems and couldn’t wrap my head around Fedora.
Bazzite, being an immutable distro, is intended where you shouldn’t need to use the Fedora package manager, so you instead install applications sandboxed like AppImages, flatpaks, etc. I’ve been fine with this for my gaming PC, but currently I still use and prefer Debian (LMDE) for my study laptop because I have easier control over it.
Overall it comes down to what you want out of your computer and what works best for you, that’s the beauty with Linux, but I thought I’d chip in and mention not to write off Bazzite for being Fedora based, as someone who couldn’t get behind Fedora.
Garuda is an Arch-based, gaming-focused distro which tries to simplify Arch to a beginner’s level
Just use distrobox with Ubuntu or Debian for your tools and such. It tightly integrates with your OS and doesn’t sacrifice the immutability
I might consider that actually, I was trying to use secureblue instead of LMDE for the better security, and this was part of why I gave up on it. Cheers!
It’s awesome. The packages don’t matter because you use distro box if there’s not a flatpak that works already. I have an Ubuntu distro box for tools for things that don’t work on fedora.
It uses ublueos for an immutable which is rock solid. Idk how to explain it well, but it’s the only distro I want anymore.
If u do end up trying it and find a package that doesn’t work, ping me and I’ll get you a command you can run to do it
immutable? does it have an immutable file system? that’s a perfect way to fill up and corrupt any storage
The root filesystem is immutable, not the entire filesystem. So when you do upgrades and things it’s super easy to roll back and you never need to rebuild your entire OS if a package is messed up or something.
Tbh I’m not great at explaining it, I’d just look up a YouTube video for it.
https://youtu.be/5w7gG0bMIeI?si=k1XGQDPbHxcborXe
Bazzite uses silverblue with other gaming related features
is it better than Garuda’s zstd backups?
I’ve never used Garuda so I can’t comment on that. It just behaves like the steam deck but uses fedora
I just use snapback on btrfs with endeavourOS 🤔 works just as well, I recon, or what is the difference?
I believe bazzite is on btrfs by default. I just like the concept of a read only root filesystem. It helps make everything more stable so far for me personally
I just do not delete system files 🌚 jk