• JiveTurkey@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    If you want to be technical a true democracy is mathematically impossible. Also Donald won the popular vote this time. Don’t waste 4 years of your life chasing conspiracy theories like the right has and clinging to a fantasy that the loser actually won. I wish things were different but that’s how it went.

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        6 hours ago

        In a race with more than 2 people it shouldn’t be uncommon to have less than 50% of the overall vote and still win. I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make. In this race he got the most votes compared to the other candidates.

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          6 hours ago

          Many countries use variations of runoff voting, where if no candidate gets a majority then the top two candidates move on to a second round and the other candidates are eliminated. This is actually the most popular way to run elections worldwide.

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            5 hours ago

            I’m aware but even assuming all of the non trump votes would go to Kamala, she still wouldn’t have won in this case.

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              5 hours ago

              He got less than 50% of the vote. If you add all the non Trump votes together you get more than 50% of the vote.

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                4 hours ago

                Roughly 50.1% but that’s still assuming none of these people would’ve switched to trump and this is how US elections work. Based on how things work Donald won the popular vote with less than 50%. I’m not saying it’s the best way but it’s also not like we suddenly switched up the rules. I assure you that I’m just as mad as you are about the system we have but when I look around no one honestly wants to do anything but complain about the way things are instead of being the change they expect to see. A president isn’t going to fix our problems. If people cared more about taking back the power and less about consuming we might see some real change. The only thing that matters in this country is money and despite all the complaints we just can’t seem to stop giving the ass holes running the show more of our money in one form or another.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Roughly 50.1% but that’s still assuming none of these people would’ve switched to trump

                  That’s not assuming none switched to Trump, merely that most switched to Harris. I think having such a close runoff race would also be likely to change how people voted more broadly. Turnout would be through the roof if everyone felt like their one vote would be the one that swung the election. It’s really hard to say what the results would have been.

                  And we’ll never know because this shithole country doesn’t do runoff elections.

                  and this is how US elections work

                  Yes, and it’s bad. I’m saying the way US elections work is undemocratic. They are designed from the ground-up to favor the ruling class and suppress the will of the People. They are meant to be undemocratic. This was all intentional.