The plan would replace the $600 million in subsidies Denmark gives the island each year

The Donald Trump administration is reportedly considering giving about $10,000 to each Greenland resident as part of its plan to annex the island.

The possibility would seek to replace the $600 million Denmark gives the territory in subsidies every year, and has stopped being mere rhetoric to become official U.S. policy, according to The New York Times.

The outlet detailed that the plan already includes several cabinet departments and that the White House’s National Security Council has met several times to advance on it, recently sending specific instructions to different offices.

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    1. If Denmark doesn’t recognize Greenland’s self-determination then they are hypocrites.
    2. Maybe maybe not. He could also give them way more. There arent a lot of people there.
    3. Being an American means you don’t care what the rest of the world thinks about you so this point is moot.
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      22 hours ago

      Denmark does recognize Greenland’s right to self determination. They can leave at any time they wish, but overwhelmingly voted to stay, several times.

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        Actually, greenlanders have polled and voted to become independent as a supermajority, they just haven’t started the process of independence yet.

        I expect that the process towards independence for greenland is going to be delayed in light of recent events though. I can’t imagine they’d want to go through with it right now

        Either way, Denmark has come out and said in the past that they will respect the wishes of greenland

        Edit: here’s a recent poll I believe https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/virtually-no-greenlander-wants-to-join-the-us-poll-finds/

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          Yes Greenland wants to be independent under the terms that Denmark continue to pay huge regional subsidies of more than 10k USD per capita per year. On top of paying for official functions like police and defense. While still being tax exempt.

          They don’t want to pay for any of that themselves.

          Apparently the only thing that keeps Greenland part of Denmark is money.
          And AFAIK Denmark gets nothing in return.

          If this support for more than a hundred years, doesn’t make Greenlanders feel as if they are part of Denmark, then I don’t see why we should keep supporting them.

          Yes we made mistakes in the past, but good luck finding someone else to support you, that display greater respect for the autonomy of Greenland.

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            all of these fucking upvotes with no fucking context.

            A new poll shows that 84% of Greenlanders want their homeland to be independent from Denmark. Yet almost half, 45%, say they only want it if it does not have a negative impact on their standard of living.

            twist that shit all you want, just seems like you’re a Denmark nationalist with your comments. You’re whole fucking comment reeks

            “we made mistakes in the past… good luck finding someone else to support you”

            like a fucking toxic relationship with an abuser, holy shit.

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            Well, yeah, obviously they wouldn’t get the subsidies anymore, I thought that was implied in gaining independence

            Either way, they should still have the right to decide themselves

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              I thought that was implied in gaining independence

              One should think that is a given, but that’s not how the people of Greenland see it.

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                Well, in that case I do agree with you. If they gain independence, the subsidies should stop. I mean, that’s only natural

                And yes, I don’t think it would be a wise choice for greenland to do, but ultimately they should still have that choice, otherwise it’s just a glorified colony

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            It’s not the money as such but Greenland not being ready for full independence. They don’t want independence to leave them worse off, poorer, as a playing ball of larger powers, etc.

            Basically Greenland is a 30yold guy living with their parents figuring out how to get their own place. They aren’t thrilled about the situation, but the parents are tolerable and it definitely beats being homeless.

            Denmark gets a friend out of this, and a good conscience. Also, business opportunities. Applies to Europe in general, I very much doubt Greenland will go for independence without joining the EU. Not only would it provide safety, but it also means sovereignty while still being able to draw on cohesion funds.

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                Support for re-joining increased form 40% to 60% from 2021 to 2024.

                Main stumbling block has always been the fisheries policy, same with Norway, Iceland and the Faroer, and while truth be told the CFP really needs reform it also has lost much economical importance for the countries. Well maybe except the Faroer.

                Greenlanders and Faroese are still EU citizens, btw, by virtue of being Danish citizens, with all the privileges that entails. That kind of special status won’t be possible upon independence, it’s going to be all-in or all-out. Ask Brits how losing EU citizenship feels like.

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      I guess if the people of Greenland accept a measly 10k soon to be worthless USD in exchange to join a dying empire, they deserve to be part of that empire. Maybe Trump is actually smart and this is a hidden IQ test.

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        I had a feeling he would try something like this. If you only need to convince 57 thousand people, throwing money at them is a very real option. But I never imagined he would go so cheap. 2 million dollars for every man woman and child would only cost the USA 120 billion dollars. Not a bad price for Greenland. 10k is a fucking insult.

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          Even at 2 million that wouldn’t really be enough money to be above all the shitty laws the US inflicts on its own citizens.

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      Not sure why you’re being downvoted, you’re correct and this is likely what the current administration will do. Hell, if 10k isn’t enough they could up it to 100k since there are so few people in Greenland. Maybe even more.

      Denmark has stated that they will honor a referendum if it comes to that. That was before the US wanted to annex the territory but it’s still true.

      The US can and will try to simply buy Greenland and it’s fairly likely to succeed in my view.

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            That’s barely any worthwhile money. I think you really overestimate how much ten k means to people - especially when it means being sucked in by a failing capitalist system.

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              If you read my comment I said it will most likely be significantly more than that. If 100k isn’t life changing money to you then you should factor in your own privilege into this argument.