• MetalMachine@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    Sanctioning albanese is an abomination.

    it’s not true to say al jolani was the founder of al qaeda. He was a part of jabhat al nusra which was affiliated with al qaeda. They split over disagreements and actually wiped al qaeda from Syria.

    Whether he’s actually a terrorist is hard to say because the US designates any group it doesnt like as that.

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      They split over disagreements

      “Listen, are we proxies of the CIA or not, guys?”

      Whether he’s actually a terrorist is hard to say

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa#War_crimes_of_al-Nusra_(2012–2016)

      Under al-Shara’a’s leadership, al-Nusra Front and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham perpetrated a series of war crimes, suicide bombings, forced conversions, ethnic cleansing and sectarian massacres against Syria’s Christian, Alawite, Shia and Druze minorities. These included the January 2012 al-Midan bombing, which killed 26 people and wounded 63.

      🤔

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        I’m sure he was backed by the CIA, people forget Hamas was backed by Israel. Doesn’t mean Hamas is an Israel asset. The CIA like many others will play the dirty game of backing groups that they dont like if there is some strategy to it. Just like they did with the Taliban originally to fight the Soviets.

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          people forget Hamas was backed by Israel. Doesn’t mean Hamas is an Israel asset

          It’s the age old “backing moderate rebels” strategy. Divide and conquer. Netanyahu armed Hamas to undermine The Palestinian Authority, then turned them into a Boogeyman the moment they had an electoral win.

          Hamas was an “asset” in the sense that it gave Israelis an excuse to continue ethically cleansing Gaza.

          Just like they did with the Taliban originally to fight the Soviets.

          So easy for westerners to ignore how the fundamental local appeal of the Taliban was to break the hold of the opium cartels (which the CIA/MI6 loved).

          As soon as the US toppled Mullah Omar’s government, their allies in the drug trade rushed back in to rebuild the old opium trade. When they were finally pushed out 20 years later, the opium traffickers were pushed out with them.

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      Also, sometimes “terrorists” give up their armed struggle. That’s something that should be encouraged. If you go with the idea of “once a terrorist, always a terrorist” then there’s no incentive for so-called “terrorists” to ever change their ways.

      And, from a more practical matter, he’s in charge of Syria now. If the international community wants Syrians to be free, happy and healthy they have to try to work with him. If they cut off all aid to Syria and refuse to work with him, then the only people who will work with him are all the various bad actors of the region. They shouldn’t necessarily fully trust him, but they should give him an opportunity to show he has the best interests of the Syrian people at heart.

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        These mental gymnastics that selectively apply to very few specific instances to prop up US interest is always wild.

        The Nazis gave up their arms too, why did the Nuremberg trials happened then? Why even have international laws against war crimes when you can just say what the west wants to hear and get off scot free. This is exactly the plan with Netanyahu too.

        You people are despicable ghouls that only concern troll with the moral high ground when it fits your narrative.

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          So, it’s propping up US interests to help Syrians avoid hunger? Why is it that you think I care about US interests anyhow?