Bluesky is the reason I’m pretty much over with the idea of ever convincing people to worry about privacy, digital freedom or societal issues at large.
Twitter was bad, became even worse, people wanted to migrate - sure. We had Mastodon, which worked perfectly, was Federated, was open for subscriptions, it was free, had working third party apps and a community already. Barely anybody migrated.
Then Bluesky shows up, and it’s the exact same technology, only more limited and with lesser freedoms… but because it’s a commercial company behind it, people immediately chose it. The argument that people don’t understand federation doesn’t even work, because the promise that Bluesky was going to participate in the Fediverse was even part of the marketing material.
People CRAVE big tech. They’re not victims of abuse or ignorance, they’re willing participants that would rather be enslaved by a corporation than use any collaborative effort.
You blame Humanity’s nature, and thus devalue the truly big difference, just one of these social networks has millions and millions invested in marketing.
It’s clear that advertising has a lot of power to influence people’s choices, otherwise oligarchs wouldn’t burn so much money on it.
I wouldn’t immediately chalk up the success of private commercial operations over open non-profit ones to a slavish misanthropic outlook on humanity. Consider that with millions in investment capital comes millions in marketing budget, too. There’s an information war and we’re outgunned.
I think this is true. Billionaires and their corporations are obviously morally bankrupt and have been manipulating all of us for long years. But at the same time, it seems to me that there is also some ‘consent’ on our part. There’s a lot of people who will still choose to be oppressed, even after having everything explained to them and seemingly having understood.
Perhaps thay’s how deep all the decades of social engineering go. Or maybe we just really like convenience, to the point where we’re willing to become slaves if it means our lives are convenient.
average person uses x and when you tell them that x stands for everything wrong with the world they just say something like “yeah but Joe Schlimblio posts on x and I follow them”
The usage of twitter was never as high as other social medias in Europe (and I presume other parts of the globe too).
Looking at statista; it seems the main perpetrators are the US and Japan, (30% and 56% of the relative populations).
From what I can tell (or be bothered to check); Japan is the only country with over half the population on X. Therefore making the sentence 'the average Japanese person uses X, to be true.
On a tangent, I wonder what Japanese X is like; is it just a sea of hand drawn tentacle based erotica, and is the source of the countries porn? Or does it see the same types of nationalism drives that western X does? Is Grok rewriting Japanese empire war crimes?.. There’s a whole world on there we’re not privvy too.
Fucking Moron Man! Defender of the average Joe, protector of the woefully mediocre! Without a thought in his head, but a spring in his step, he fights on with the conviction of a total idiot!
People don’t crave big tech, big tech just has more money and willingness to advertise and astroturf. When a newspaper or tv show or influencer mentions BlueSky in a story, it’s a 50:50 chance that an expensive marketing agency fed them it.
I wonder how much the adoption of newer platforms has a lot to do with having money to advertise. I feel like I lucked out a bit finding lemmy when reddit had the 3rd party apps shut down, just stumbling on a comment before it was deleted. Whereas if the commenter had paid for it to be an advertisement it may have stayed up
Bluesky is the reason I’m pretty much over with the idea of ever convincing people to worry about privacy, digital freedom or societal issues at large.
Twitter was bad, became even worse, people wanted to migrate - sure. We had Mastodon, which worked perfectly, was Federated, was open for subscriptions, it was free, had working third party apps and a community already. Barely anybody migrated.
Then Bluesky shows up, and it’s the exact same technology, only more limited and with lesser freedoms… but because it’s a commercial company behind it, people immediately chose it. The argument that people don’t understand federation doesn’t even work, because the promise that Bluesky was going to participate in the Fediverse was even part of the marketing material.
People CRAVE big tech. They’re not victims of abuse or ignorance, they’re willing participants that would rather be enslaved by a corporation than use any collaborative effort.
You blame Humanity’s nature, and thus devalue the truly big difference, just one of these social networks has millions and millions invested in marketing.
It’s clear that advertising has a lot of power to influence people’s choices, otherwise oligarchs wouldn’t burn so much money on it.
I wouldn’t immediately chalk up the success of private commercial operations over open non-profit ones to a slavish misanthropic outlook on humanity. Consider that with millions in investment capital comes millions in marketing budget, too. There’s an information war and we’re outgunned.
I think this is true. Billionaires and their corporations are obviously morally bankrupt and have been manipulating all of us for long years. But at the same time, it seems to me that there is also some ‘consent’ on our part. There’s a lot of people who will still choose to be oppressed, even after having everything explained to them and seemingly having understood.
Perhaps thay’s how deep all the decades of social engineering go. Or maybe we just really like convenience, to the point where we’re willing to become slaves if it means our lives are convenient.
The average person is a fucking moron man ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
average person uses x and when you tell them that x stands for everything wrong with the world they just say something like “yeah but Joe Schlimblio posts on x and I follow them”
Average *Japanese person.
The usage of twitter was never as high as other social medias in Europe (and I presume other parts of the globe too).
Looking at statista; it seems the main perpetrators are the US and Japan, (30% and 56% of the relative populations).
From what I can tell (or be bothered to check); Japan is the only country with over half the population on X. Therefore making the sentence 'the average Japanese person uses X, to be true.
On a tangent, I wonder what Japanese X is like; is it just a sea of hand drawn tentacle based erotica, and is the source of the countries porn? Or does it see the same types of nationalism drives that western X does? Is Grok rewriting Japanese empire war crimes?.. There’s a whole world on there we’re not privvy too.
Not even just average people. Exceptional people who absolutely know better still fall for this shit. The “marketplace of ideas” is a failure.
If people want real ideas they need to grow them and care for them and that shit is hard and it will cost you time and money.
Fucking Moron Man! Defender of the average Joe, protector of the woefully mediocre! Without a thought in his head, but a spring in his step, he fights on with the conviction of a total idiot!
People don’t crave big tech, big tech just has more money and willingness to advertise and astroturf. When a newspaper or tv show or influencer mentions BlueSky in a story, it’s a 50:50 chance that an expensive marketing agency fed them it.
Exactly. You cannot grow without expending money. You cannot expend money if you are not generating money.
These services will not work until they have an economical purpose.
I wonder how much the adoption of newer platforms has a lot to do with having money to advertise. I feel like I lucked out a bit finding lemmy when reddit had the 3rd party apps shut down, just stumbling on a comment before it was deleted. Whereas if the commenter had paid for it to be an advertisement it may have stayed up