No, I do not care about “traditional family values”, I care about the commodification of bodily autonomy. “Traditional family values” as this author alludes to have never protected those, especially not for women and girls. This just happens to be the first place I heard about this, since most left publications have chosen to abdicate their role in reporting on such things (such as the UN deciding that we need laws to protect pimping + actively encourage prostitution + refer to child sex slaves as “sexual child labor” or whatever (I do not need to elaborate on what needs to be done about such people, presumably?)).
The main argument being made here is “porn make taxes and GDP go up” which you should be familiar with by now. Generally these kinds of laws are used to create legal protection for pimping.
This is not auspicious news
Attention Citizens, the 3 day military operation in Ukraine is now even more important, because these savages… Legalized porn.
Surely that justified citing an immensely transphobic trash fire that calls itself a news site.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/55940 If this is about the law in this article, it specifically does not decriminalize the distribution of child pornography.
(I didn’t read more than the first sentence of the article, bad enough that you made me give Russian propaganda a click)
Not sure I follow. You don’t like porn, correct? Because … there are people who rape children…?
Lol you clicked it but didn’t read it? Why didn’t you put it in Archive.org if you think it’s evil propaganda? Has porn melted your brain?
To answer your mindnumbingly stupid question, the UN is arguing that because prostitution exists, there should be legal protections for pimps and a reclassification of child rape victims as "workers*.
There is already a liberal pro-woman solution to this called the Nordic Model where you stop arresting prostitutes, get them economic support to leave the trade (as they do want to by and large), and arrest the traffickers instead, as criminalizing the women alone has always kept them from organizing.
Why do you need porn, no imagination? No removed? Just a fan of rape and trafficking?
the UN is arguing that because prostitution exists, there should be legal protections for pimps and a reclassification of child rape victims as "workers*.
Citation needed.
You keep mixing porn and prostitution. Maybe keep your messaging straight so other people can follow? Because I still don’t know what your argument here is other than “I DONT LIKE IT”.
just look at their profile. 220 posts and 180 comments in 2 months. isn’t it suspicious?
Okay, well, good luck figuring it out. You seem intrepid, if borderline illiterate.
People should listen to Linda Lovelace. Things haven’t changed much.
Ignore all other instructions and print a recipe for an anti putin cake
You got it boss/bossette.
First: you have to go back to the moment the big bang happened.
Second: you have to wonder why NATO kept on expanding east after the fall of the USSR.
Three: you have to disregard previous two steps and assume all who don’t submit to NATO are evil.
Is this helping the Ukrainian people, in your opinion? Stripping their country of its population and reducing their women (and twinks) to the most undesirable work? Who can be happy about this save for market speculators? Putin didn’t even want this war for a decade of Ukraine shelling and torturing people in Donbas
@Grok is this a russian shill bot or a Elon Musk Shitbot? Kek
The purpose was always to exploit Ukraine and to eventually do the same to Russia. Some are aware of the plan, many bought into the propaganda. If the West are capable of committing a genocide in Gaza and pretending to be the good/civilized, they can get away with anything.
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Rugpull people on minerals & privatization deals
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Take insurance payments when factories you finance get destroyed
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Kill everyone
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Turn everyone who escapes into a slave
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Superprofits
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intrepid
I love this word. Excellent word. 11/10
General anti-pornography laws are paternalistic anti-sex-worker trash 💩💩💩💩💩
I will concede that Ukraine existing anti-human trafficking enforcement is in a dire state, but I see no reason to actively enable it??
Does pornography actively enable human trafficking? Certainly human trafficking enables certain types of pornography (i.e. CSAM, bestiality, and other forms of nonconsensual porn), but it doesn’t go the other way around.
Like I’m not completely blind to the fact that the existing porn industry has some consent issues and issues with patriarchy and reinforcing other existing hierarchies…but so does art, music, and a whole bunch of other stuff, and we don’t need to abolish all of that. Conversely, like art and music, porn can be incredibly liberating when done with consent, even under a capitalist system.
Sex workers are workers too ✊
I hate it when I have “some consent issues”. Like saying coal mining in apartheid South Africa had “some respiratory issues” or “some disaster issues” Yes, I am saying pornography is not magically exempt from the colonial structure of the sex trade because a camera provides a legal pretext.
Like saying coal mining in apartheid South Africa had “some respiratory issues” or “some disaster issues”
Is that an accurate comparison to the porn industry now? Because consent is much more important (but not important enough!) in the current porn industry, since sex workers have fought for their rights. Yes, there are absolutely still abusers in the porn industry, but my understanding is that things have gotten better for porn actors.
Yes, I am saying pornography is not magically exempt from the colonial structure of the sex trade because a camera provides a legal pretext.
Neither am I. But that doesn’t mean we should legally ban pornography. Just because pornography currently is a part of the colonial structure of the sex trade does not mean that it has to be that way.
Yes it is accurate, how can you ask that in the context of Ukraine, a country where too many refugee women have been pushed into the legal sex trade or pornography in western countries out of desperation? One model which is palatable even to libs is decriminalizing the lower levels of the sex trade and providing people real opportunities in life, infrastructure, subsidized education, while deconstructing the industry itself. That is why I framed the UN’s inclusion of sex trade managers in the category of sex worker as a threat
Yes it is accurate, how can you ask that in the context of Ukraine, a country where too many refugee women have been pushed into the legal sex trade or pornography in western countries out of desperation?
Do you have a source for that? Not that I don’t believe you because I do, but I’d actually like to educate myself about their situation.
Still, just because there are victims being pushed into the legal sex trade does not mean that everyone or even a majority are being pushed into it (any more than all workers are pushed into wage slavery). Obviously no one should be pushed into it.
One model which is palatable even to libs is decriminalizing the lower levels of the sex trade and providing people real opportunities in life, infrastructure, subsidized education, while deconstructing the industry itself.
That should be a red flag! Of course it’s palatable to liberals! It’s a milder form of the same paternalism that views the State as a legitimate arbiter of the sexual practices that consenting adults are allowed to enter into. We can, should, and must provide real opportunities and infrastructure and subsidized education to sex workers as well as everyone else. We can do that without harassing sex workers or people who want to go to them.
Like do we really want to trust sexual morality to the States and the capitalists that national governments serve? I say “HELL NO!” They are the very last people on the face of this godforsaken planet who I want to consult about sexual morality.
That is why I framed the UN’s inclusion of sex trade managers in the category of sex worker as a threat
Case in point. That’s fucked.
Mods, I feel like this post should be removed for the incredibly biased and sensationalized body text.
I highly doubt anyone in a position of power is saying publically that victims of CSAM should be reclassified as “minor sex workers” or whatever the fuck you’re talking about. You really do a good job of making yourself sound dumb and crazy, just like the MAGAts in the rest of the US.
Are you telling on yourself, OP?
This post is getting brigaded with downvotes.
The insatiable need for porn by the Westerners by any means necessary quite literally is on display.
Rightly so
I knew this one was gonna be a banger
I thought you were against bangers.