• Daemon Silverstein@calckey.world
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    @misk@sopuli.xyz @Skavau@piefed.social

    As a sidenote, I remember that UK has an odd and ancient “law” stating something in the lines “The Crown must not be offended” (i.e. being anti-monarchy and advocating for the end of monarchy, even without any violent language/means but a pacific defense of anti-monarchy). I couldn’t find it, nor I can remember the exact phrasing, but such a “law” threatens prison time for those who “dare” to “offend” the crowniness of UK Crown. Also, I’m not sure to what extent this law is applied in practice.

    Even though I’m Brazilian (so the UK supposedly “have no power over here”, and I say it with the Gandalf’s voice), I see these international situations with some worry: there are needed laws (such as laws against noise pollution) and there are laws whose reach ends up going way too far from their “seemingly well-intentioned” puritan scope (such as the aforementioned laws).

    If countries are capable of passing draconian laws against their own citizens, don’t expect that those same countries couldn’t go further to impose these laws beyond their own lawns, especially in times of interconnectedness.

    And Fediverse platforms from everywhere around the entire globe end up being caught in the crossfire, due to that same interconnectedness.

    In the end of the day, the world is increasingly bleaker, as the history is being repeated (maxims “One thing people can learn from history books is that people can’t learn from history books”, and “history doesn’t just repeat, it rhymes”).

    • Womble@lemmy.world
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      Also, I’m not sure to what extent this law is applied in practice.

      as per the article general_effort posted:

      The act – which makes it a criminal offence, punishable by life imprisonment, to advocate abolition of the monarchy in print, even by peaceful means – has not been deployed in a prosecution since 1879.

      Its one of those laws that are on the books mostly becuase no one has got around to modifying it and removing the bits that are unused.

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      As a sidenote, I remember that UK has an odd and ancient “law” stating something in the lines “” (i.e. being anti-monarchy and advocating for the end of monarchy, even without any violent language/means but a pacific defense of anti-monarchy). I couldn’t find it, nor I can remember the exact phrasing, but such a “law” threatens prison time for those who “dare” to “offend” the crowniness of UK Crown. Also, I’m not sure to what extent this law is applied in practice.

      Given there’s an active pro-republican campaign site I’d wager not at all.

      If countries are capable of passing draconian laws against their own citizens, don’t expect that those same countries couldn’t go further to impose these laws beyond their own lawns, especially in times of interconnectedness.

      UK against the USA? I think the UK isn’t winning that.

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        I think treason laws have only been used against people who were actually plotting to or attempting to murder the monarch.