Ring footage shows an agent pulling his gun on her, after which he shoves her down multiple times, pushes her back into house & slams the door.
All because she was asking for proof of a warrant. They refused to even give their names & badge numbers.
Ring footage shows an agent pulling his gun on her, after which he shoves her down multiple times, pushes her back into house & slams the door.
All because she was asking for proof of a warrant. They refused to even give their names & badge numbers.
I’m not understanding how somebody in a mask who isn’t presenting a badge can brandish a gun and shove somebody on their property without themselves being shot.
yeah. still waiting on the 2A crowd to enforce their anti tyranny claims.
Ice are the 2A crowd
And they see the entirety of the US as their property to enforce their 2A rights on
This is why the left needs to get armed. You disarmed yourself while the right wing continued to buy arms and now your “surprise Pikachu face” that the right is not stopping this…what logic are you trying to lay here?
It’s not that people relied on the right to fight anything - it’s more the fact that none of these manlyman hero “good guys with a gun” ever step up.
The whole point of the criticism of 2A is that every single argument for it is bullshit with no basis in the real world.
You…you mean other than right now? When the gestapo are growing rapidly and straight up kidnapping people? Right now is the entire argument for it.
This comment is the shit I’m literally talking about. I’m assuming you’re on the left and you see shit like this daily, and probably say fascist are running the show and you still stick your head in the sand.
Notice how no civil war is breaking out.
Notice how nobody wants to start a shootout with armed forces?
Notice how the only real world impact of civvies arming themselves is more civvies die?
I’m from a country with sensible gun laws and no gestapo snatching people off the streets. yet we still take to the streets in protest of a far right party blasting past constitutional lines - they’re currently under investigation and potentially to be banned in the future.
All without posturing as armed defenders of democracy watching it’s downfall from the sidelines.
The fuck are you on about? Civil wars happen regardless of the population being armed or not. See Myanmar.
Who is nobody? Cause in the states it’s getting that way soon.
That’s not how that works at all.
Uhh ok? So why the fuck do you give a shit about what happens here in the states? You don’t know the dynamics here at all, and just see what you are fed by your local news.
Cool, we’re trying to do that as well…
Ok let me know how that goes… assuming you actually post where you’re from
Again…the left isn’t armed like the right is. The right wing wants the crap that’s happening here. You’re not making any sense at all.
Off topic, but Myanmar has had local militias for decades and they were in varying states of rebellion until the democratic reforms in the 2010-2020 period. Yes, the civil war has spread further now, but this was in no way a disarmed country.
Myanmar was heavily restricted on access to firearms. It’s why the 3d printed guns were used a ton early on before the free people could get access to firearms. The junta has relaxed this for supporters of the regime, but saying that they were armed is a bit of a stretch.
I think (and this person can correct me if I’m wrong, it’s really how I understood it) the idea was: despite all the 2A theory of “we need guns to defend from tyrannical government, and yes, if it were to happen I’d take up arms” the US is (not so slowly anymore) sliding toward the tyrannical government and we saw no usage of 2A to fight against it.
Your point could be right: it’s because people with the gun generally agree with the government, so no reason to use 2A.
Next question is: even if all leftist were armed, would we start to see ICE agent being shot? No idea.
Oh and, on another note, to compare the US and Myanmar is NOT a good comparison from any point of view.
Again, 20% of the left is armed or lives with someone who is armed… nearly %60 is the right…the right is driving this fascist bullshit. No wonder it’s not being used.
Y>our point could be right: it’s because people with the gun generally agree with the government, so no reason to use 2A.
Exactly.
If ICE starts shooting people, you better bet there would be return fire.
I didn’t compare it to the USA at all. I stated that they’re population was not armed and they still have a civil war happening. Which is counter point to the guy stating that civil wars don’t happen if civs aren’t armed like in his country. Which is bullshit.
Exactly, thanks!
is this a strawman or just intentionally obtuse?
sure, maybe. probably not, but maybe.
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aaahh there we go, conspiratorial anti “the media” shit that i usually expect from the good ol 2A crowd.
You acted like civil wars happen because the population is armed…so no it wasn’t a strawman it was to point out that you’re ignorantly wrong.
Says the guy who lives in a different country and assumes how the usa is going to be in a civil war because we’re armed…keep your nose in your own countries business. What we do here doesn’t effect you.
The last time the left got armed the police bombed the building in Philadelphia, in 1985. The police and ICE are way more violent now, so I’d wager it would happen again. With ICE’s new budget I assume we’ll see armored carriers and tanks rolling around sometime next year.
Not a reason to not arm yourself. You’re just proving why you should be armed.
The left is armed. Lots of us own firearms; we’re just quiet about it because we don’t make guns our whole identity because we’re not fragile man children.
Trust me, right now there is not an appetite for violence. If things keep getting worse sooner or later we will hear more about ICE getting killed. Probably in a year or less since they’re expanding the American Gestapo.
The left owns a tiny fraction of the firearms in civ hands. This isn’t some dig at the left. It should be a wakeup call. I’m sure plenty have me tagged here as 2A nut job because I bring it up when shit like this shows up in the news. I’m strongly on the left and I know a lot of other left leaning people, almost all of them are anti-2a/anti-gun.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
The left… isn’t armed. It’s completely outgunned.
Your last point is of critical importance. The populace as a whole is outgunned. Psuedo-militarized police forces and “law enforcement” organizations have us outgunned. Nobody’s going out shooing unless they have nothing to lose. And right now, just about everyone still has something to lose. The goal is to keep the population comfortable enough not to riot on the streets.
There’s a reason they’re targeting the peaceful working class brown people who have families and still have hope that somehow the system will work and they’ll be returned to their family. Notice how they’re not rolling into the ghettos and trying to clean up the latino gangs where immigrants are definitely hiding. These ICE agents are cowards and bullies who pick on the weak to make themselves feel better.
2A dipshits are nothing but loser pussies.
They’re waiting for tyranny to show up at their doorstep after everyone else is gone.
I think it’s more that they cosy up to tyranny because they are spineless hanger-ons.
I guess some people are not in the “I will die but I’m taking you with me” mindset all the time.
If possession of an unlicensed suppressor can be legally considered attempted murder, I didn’t see how showing up armed, concealing one’s identity, brandishing firearms, and physically assaulting people (with the threat of said firearms) is not. States need to start trying all of these nazis.
Cuz fuck you, we have all the power now. Thats why
Not being rude, this is their ultimate reasoning and motivation underneath all the bullshit