‘Every time I access the internet I use a browser that is starting to get shitty. I will draw a silly little cartoon to illustrate how I feel about it.’
Yes. Entirely too over dramatic. I guess people should just shut up and deal with the bullshit instead?
This would be true in a vacuum, but the quantity of posts about the subject has been significant, and it isn’t the only cartoon I’ve seen someone draw specifically about Firefox.
Regardless, just don’t interact with the AI stuff and you won’t even know the difference.
On by default is exactly what forcing interaction looks like.
There are many effects regardless of whether or not you interact with the features directly.
Disagreeing vehemently doesn’t make you correct.
Some of these things are on by default, that’s the very definition of forcing an interaction, even if it’s just to hunt through the settings to turn it off.
Regardless, just don’t interact with the AI stuff and you won’t even know the difference.
It’s so close to the same energy it’s even parroting the same kind of “make absolute statements without understanding the realities of the subject” mindset.
Let’s start with some basics.
At least some of these features are on by default so from the get go you are already being affected, even if it’s just a minor annoyance.
You need go out of your way to turn them all off (and keep on top of new additions, again, some of which are on by default).
They are also regularly “reset” during upgrades
Assuming you’re a regular user and don’t religiously go turning all of these features off at the root, some of them will be part of interacting with the daily usage of the browser, incurring a performance cost.
Right click context actions are a good example of this, as is AI tab grouping and the planned Link Preview (though the latter currently needs a key press to activate)
Even if you never use the tab grouping, the analysis of what’s needed to suggest things is still a performance cost, possible a non-trivial one.
Any new code or feature added to the browser contributes to bug and maintenance surface area, meaning resources used to develop, test and maintain that code.
This is resource not being used on other, non AI, bugs and features.
Project management is complicated so it isn’t a one-to-one ratio of resources from one thing to another, but it’s still a non-zero percentage.
Now for the slightly more esoteric
LLM’s as a whole are provably bad for the environment, power grids and water supplies , that’s both the running and the model generation
People might not care about this, but not caring doesn’t negate negative impacts in this case.
Some might consider the tradeoff to be worth it, that’s fine, still affected by it though.
I’m not arguing for or against LLM features (though for the record i’m not a fan of them being auto-included) i’m saying that your statement about not being affected if you don’t use them is incorrect.
No way, lemmy needs to hear dissenting opinions. This place is too stuck in its One Thought™ and Single Opinion™ on many subjects.
It’s also not the end of the world that a tech company is following tech trends. The browser isn’t going to just keel over and die because lemmy doesn’t like LLMs.
Well, if I think people are being silly for only thinking ‘AI bad’, I’m not gonna take the stance of ‘AI good’. Don’t think it belongs in any hard category.
I specifically use firefox to maintain a small shred of privacy online, any non-local AI is a gigantic privacy breach so for me this is making firefox shittier simply by being integrated into the browser.
Has anyone told all of you that you’re a little over dramatic over minor problems?
‘Every time I access the internet I use a browser that is starting to get shitty. I will draw a silly little cartoon to illustrate how I feel about it.’
Yes. Entirely too over dramatic. I guess people should just shut up and deal with the bullshit instead?
This would be true in a vacuum, but the quantity of posts about the subject has been significant, and it isn’t the only cartoon I’ve seen someone draw specifically about Firefox.
Regardless, just don’t interact with the AI stuff and you won’t even know the difference.
You’re seeing a lot of it because lots of people use the browser and lots of people are upset that it’s getting shitty.
No, I’m seeing it a lot because lemmy’s only opinion is “ai bad” and Mozilla just announced adding more optional AI features to their browser.
You’re seeing “ai bad” a lot because it’s the correct opinion. Sorry you haven’t caught up yet.
Ah yes, the GroupThink™
pesky groups, always “thinking”. why cant they just agree with me? i bet they all get together and conspire to discredit me, personally.
Same energy
Hard disagree. In no way are you being forced to interact with any of this.
TL;DR;
On by default is exactly what forcing interaction looks like.
There are many effects regardless of whether or not you interact with the features directly.
Disagreeing vehemently doesn’t make you correct.
Some of these things are on by default, that’s the very definition of forcing an interaction, even if it’s just to hunt through the settings to turn it off.
It’s so close to the same energy it’s even parroting the same kind of “make absolute statements without understanding the realities of the subject” mindset.
Let’s start with some basics.
Now for the slightly more esoteric
I’m not arguing for or against LLM features (though for the record i’m not a fan of them being auto-included) i’m saying that your statement about not being affected if you don’t use them is incorrect.
Remember what I said about being over dramatic?
If you look at a bullet point list and see drama I think I can safely ignore your threshold for “drama”.
Has anyone ever told you to not say anything if you dont have anything positive to say? Just block them.
No way, lemmy needs to hear dissenting opinions. This place is too stuck in its One Thought™ and Single Opinion™ on many subjects.
It’s also not the end of the world that a tech company is following tech trends. The browser isn’t going to just keel over and die because lemmy doesn’t like LLMs.
“You’re over dramatic” is not a dissenting opinion, that’s unrelated to the topic. You’ve got to say “AI good” for that.
Well, if I think people are being silly for only thinking ‘AI bad’, I’m not gonna take the stance of ‘AI good’. Don’t think it belongs in any hard category.
Then where is your dissent for their opinion?
Firefox is not going to get shittier just because lemmy doesn’t like AI.
I specifically use firefox to maintain a small shred of privacy online, any non-local AI is a gigantic privacy breach so for me this is making firefox shittier simply by being integrated into the browser.
That’s a lot more civil than personal attacks.