So uh… Israel… I’m pretty sure “never forget” doesn’t mean “we should practice it so we don’t forget how to conduct an efficient genocide”
Nonono… It’s “never forget what happened to the Jews”.
…and use that as a strategy guide to oppress others?
Literally selective sympathies huh. I just don’t get why they can’t make things better with people instead of burning literal food to try win.
And the USA funds the genocide
And acts as the good guys to boot.
I wonder, is there any nation or entity the US doesn’t fund?
Can’t get played when you play all sides.
I always love how two nations genocide each other and every English speaking forum ends up with ‘How dare the USA’ lol.
It’s like people who can do nothing but blame the parents on their child going onto murder everyone when sometimes your child is just shit lol. You absolve so much of their personal responsibility by blaming the son for fathers behavior.
People really just don’t like the fact that people can and will do evil shit without much justification simply by the way their genetics and culture work.
Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
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Did you just say people do evil things because of their genetics?
holy fucking genetic supremecy, batman.
What kind of simple minded asinine take are you appeal to extreme’ing about?
Helicopter or hands-off parenting? The choice won’t impact a kid as much as you think
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1193176710
Nature versus nurture is a long-standing debate in biology and society about the relative influence on human beings of their genetic inheritance (nature) and the environmental conditions of their development (nurture). The alliterative expression “nature and nurture” in English has been in use since at least the Elizabethan period[1] and goes back to medieval French.[2] The complementary combination of the two concepts is an ancient concept (Ancient Greek: ἁπό φύσεως καὶ εὐτροφίας).[3] Nature is what people think of as pre-wiring and is influenced by genetic inheritance and other biological factors. Nurture is generally taken as the influence of external factors after conception e.g. the product of exposure, experience and learning on an individual.
You weren’t describing nature vs nurture. You were implying eugenics with your last statement.
That’s one way to take it, sure. But we all have the ability to other (to distance other people in our minds from what it means to be a “person”), and from there we can do violence to those we’ve othered. It’s a fairly universal human trait. Culture plays into who you might other as well.
Do you genuinely believe there are people out there who aren’t born predisposed to violence? This is a well known fact and a reason we have prisons for people who are not able to be rehabilitated. There aren’t nearly as many monsters out there as people think, but they’re there.
People like serial killers are well known for having relatively normal upbringings but go on to become murderers/rapists. Some even come from loving, caring, and enthusiastic homes.
People can hand-wave genetic predisposition all they want, it doesn’t make genetic heritability for a multitude of of disorders untrue. Nor does it change how you rolled poorly in the genetic lottery and now you’re stuck with a male brain inside a female body.
No amount of therapy is going to keep some poor pedophile’s brain wired to find children attractive from finding that they’re attractive. They get to live their entire cursed existence hating themselves even if they never hurt a single kid.
People give biology way too little credit for the monsters that society has to deal with. And as shown above, a lot of it isn’t due to culture, how you were raised, or if you were loved. It’s because you hit the genetic snake eyes and you don’t have the little thing in the back of your brain that finds rape and murder repulsive.
Genetics doesn’t absolve them of their guilt, but it’s one piece of a puzzle that too few people give credit for. For the same reason why one kid can do coke once and never try it again, and another ends up having their life spiral out of control for a decade due to addiction.
Aight, supremacist.
I like how you don’t mention what kind of supremacist lol. Human supremacy ftw!
I cannot help but think of nazi Germany when I read this. It’s very similar
They gotta learn that somewhere…
Retired IDF General Israel Ziv told CNN he had seen the videos and was so disturbed by them that he reached out to IDF commanders in charge of the soldiers involved.
“I was (told) that the brigade commander will punish the ones who did that once they stop fighting,” he told CNN.
In its statement to CNN, the IDF said that “disciplinary measures will be taken regarding the soldiers involved.”
In other words, they’re only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they’ll only process it well after it’s happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.
In other words, they’re only interested in punishing the ones that get caught, and they’ll only process it well after it’s happened so they can just deliver a slap on the wrist.
By definition, you can only punish the ones that get caught.
Actually the Israelis are very strong supporters of collective punishment, given their stance on Palestinians I would have thought they would execute the families of entire platoons.
Fuck this shit.
Tragic how the abused has become the abuser.
This is not tragic. This is, has been, and will always be Israeli foreign policy. Ever since the state was created, they were supposed to be a “foothold of civilization in the region”. They have constantly settled outside of borders and into Palestinian territory, and then defended their settlements with their superior firepower. They have constantly waged this type of unorthodox war. They supported Hamas as a tactical strike against the more moderate candidates in Palestine, because you can’t paint moderates as the aggressor as easily - this worked wonders for their PR - they managed to clean their image, because they had an enemy that looked even worse.
Make no mistake friend - Israel has never been the abuser, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused. They have been conducting an ethnic cleansing in the area. The only hope Palestinians have is that history books write the truth, but seeing as how Israel’s money isn’t running out and their reach is long, even this seems unlikely - just look at all the support they still have despite their foreign policy being literally genocide.
In addition the founders of Israel broke the international Anti-Nazi boycott to build their right wing ethnostate. This is who they have always been. Their support of the Nazis directly contributed to the holocaust.
Israel has never been the abuser, and throughout their short lifetime as a state they have only abused.
I believe you need to edit that… Not in the context of you being “wrong/right” or anything opinion based like that, just that its contradictional… I don’t think it’s what you meant to actually say is all :)
I believe it’s a simple typo. Should be “never been the abused” and d and r are close to each other.
What makes you think these guys have ever been abused?
You are being downvoted by people who think Israel = Jews.
Kind of a racist thought from them.
Why in fuck would I give a shit about being downvoted. Is that really what you people are here for, to be “upvoted” all the time?? Is that really supposed to frighten me into a retraction of my statement? If I was not being downvoted, I WOULD retract my statement - the whole point is that it’s designed to scare people and get them to downvote and show that I’ve told the truth by doing so.
Either you’re responding to the wrong comment or we all know who your alt is now.
Makes no never mind to me either way.
Has anyone else noticed how prolific rivermonster is in this thread? And how their comments are full of half-truths that always favor Israeli policy? Weird, isn’t it?
Spamming the comment section with pro israeli comments or even just muddying the waters. I’ve seen it with a few posters, including rivermonster. It distracts those reading from the real issue being discussed, usually israeli crimes against humanity.
Well, from his comment history he is single minded at best.
generally, they also have problems with the concept of “before / after” or literally say they ignore anything that disagrees with their statement
Just block 'em and move on 🤷♂
Someone posting a lot of comments in a thread doesn’t necessarily mean much, beyond them engaging with the thread and replying to multiple comments as they scroll through. That isn’t to deny their bias, just to point out that their presence and bias doesn’t necessarily point to some kind of organised action.
Edit: ok I didn’t have to (nor think I would have to) scroll far down to see that they are clearly a troll. The whole “it’s important to counter false narratives”, while clearly delivering a biased narrative, pretty clearly shows they’re not an honest actor.
The most moral army of the only democracy in the Middle East! If you disagree, you’re homophobic since some of these soldiers are gay
Eh?
Right?
You could say the same about any army. There are some soldiers who are gay in all regiments around the world. But they aren’t there to be gay, they’re doing their job and in a way that’s maybe one of the better things about armies - they tend to be not so concerned about your sexual habits as much as your proficiency in combat.
Looks like they took “never forget” a bit too far
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Israel’s army is apparently much closer to Russia’s than the US’. This is disgusting and pathetic.
Israel itself is culturally very similar to Russia. Living in Russia, I’ve always been amused how their public picture is so different in everything.
USA army rape
All armies rape
And violates Geneva Conventions. No non-combatant shall be harmed.
Which is why most non-Russian armies make it criminal instead of a mission objective.
No one’s saying the US military are a bunch of faultless angels. But there’s a certain line of morality they are expected to keep, and conduct like that is illegal. They’re expected to disobey unlawful orders, and shit like this is unlawful.
Shit goes on at army bases and you’ll hear about soldiers being shitty off and on base, but you never see the US military devolving into petty thugs like this in active combat.
Typically we save that for the police back home. And I wish I were being sarcastic.
Nazi subhuman trash (the IDF)
Don’t dehumanize people ever, please. War crimes need to be pointed out and punished, but neither nazi nor subhuman is a reasonable accusation.
Fucking CNN blocks firefox? wtf
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No issue for me, sounds like you’ve got some settings they don’t like, rather than explicitly blocking Firefox.
However I’ve had worse websites that just simply don’t work in Firefox at all. I mean, they do load, but there’s no ability to scroll, thus you cannot see the bulk of the content. An example: https://idno.vattenfall.co.uk/
worked for me, FireFox Ublock, ABP, and no-script
Works fine for me even with adblocking & tracker bloacking.
Works fine for me. Firefox, Android, and within the EU.
It opens fine for me on Android
Try replacing “edition” with “lite” in the URL
It’s pretty bad - glad they will be disciplined.
Like how they disciplined the guy that murdered Shireen Abu Akleh? They’ll investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. There’s a reason the IDF trains US cops.
Well given how the Hamas would cheer them on if the situations were reversed its at least a differentiation and a step in the right direction.
they will get disciplined… with a cool medal, similar, but slightly different from the one given for murdering children in the west bank.
Dehumanising the enemy has always been a feature of war and long-driven conflicts like this. Soldiers everywhere are taught to believe the enemy are pests and lesser than them.
