An initial IDF probe into the hostage killing incident suggests all three men were shirtless, with one carrying a makeshift white flag.
On seeing them, one Israeli soldier shouted “terrorists!” to the other forces, initiating fire at the men, according to reports.
While two hostages were hit immediately and fell to the ground, the third managed to escape into a nearby building where despite pleas in Hebrew, he was also shot and killed, a military official said.
So what happened we do our outmost to protect civilian lives? Because believing that this is the first time something like this to happen in Gaza is rather naïve.
Hey man, questions are anti-semetic. Until Israel kills six million and one people, try to be respectful.
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We accidentally pursued and hunted the third guy to death. Whoopsiedaisy.
“Look what you made us do.”
Which actually is true. You should spend your time condemning the terrorist elected government of Gaza, Hamas needs to be eradicated.
Eliminate Likud and the IDF while we’re at it. Eliminate all terrorists from the area.
I’m with you, I hate the Likud party, and Hamas is the reason Bibi and them are in power. If you don’t understand that, just do a little historical research.
And blanket stating that the IDF is terrorists is ridiculous. I know it’s hip and trendy right now to say, but that doesn’t make it true.
I think you have it backwards. Bibi is the reason Hamas is in power.
Maybe there’s some truth to it the way you said it, but this is literally objective reality. He directly supported Hamas.
There wouldn’t even be a Bibi without them. He would have lost, and Perez would have moved forward with two states and Arafat (who Hamas would have also had a harder time removing).
The bottom line is I think we can agree they’re bedfellows, yeah? Hamas has been trying to make this conflict happen their entire existence. They want maximum Palestian casualties in the hopes of expanding the war to more nations than just their allies like Quatar, Iran, and the Houthis.
Never look to me to defend Bibi and the Likud. Many war criminals there I’d like to see taken to the Hague.
Hamas has been trying to make this conflict happen their entire existence
Hamas wouldn’t exist without the atrocities of Israel and the IOF – Hamas was created afterwards (long afterwards)
At this point, what is the difference between Hamas and the IDF? The only difference is the amount of weapons and money behind the 2 groups.
It’s not just the hip thing to say. The IDF is a genocidal tool of the Israeli state terrorizing the Palestinian people.
The difference is Hamas ALWAYS has and openly targets civilians. The IDF is trying to minimize them in one of the densest urban war theaters ever (chosen by and forced by Hamas who is co-locating and using it as a shield).
You don’t seem to understand the civilian casualties that would occur if the IDF were intentionally seeking to target civilians. You’d be looking at hundreds of thousands or even millions. And you would NOT risk your troops on the ground with that plan. They have the ability to end this with no troops on the ground, but not while minimizing casualties.
I’m sure the 18,000+ dead civilians appreciate the fact that they weren’t openly trying to be killed. I’m sure the thousands of civilians in detention without charges are also glad to hear that the IDF isn’t doing all this out in the open.
Israel is a genocidal state terrorizing the Palestinian people. It must be broken.
You diminish the term genocide when you misuse it. And yes, Hamas murdering 18,000 civilians by using them as shields and intentionally trying to force as many civilian casualties as possible is horrific. It’s part of why I support hunting them all down and killing them.
(difference is Hamas was founded 40 years later)
Why can’t both be wrong? Neither deserves the land. I’m at the point where I’m starting to think everyone should be removed from the area of Israel and Gaza, etc. and it be declared a world heritage site with a visitor center and museum by each of the three Abrahamic religions/cultures and nobody allowed to actually live there. Everyone gets their holy land visitation and nobody owns it. The states there were artificially created, and they can be removed
three Abrahamic religions
so nothing for Yezidis, Zoroastrians, or any other pre-Abrahamic religions?
how dare the prisoners of a concentration camp strike back at their guards! for shame!
Your apology for terrorists and war crimes of the elected government of Gaza says everything.
your apology for terrorists and war crimes and settler colonialism and genocide by the elected government of Israel says everything
- IDF shot unarmed civilians waving white flag
- target was unarmed and not returning fire yet IDF killed just 2 of 3 at first try
- IDF was scared
- IDF didn’t follow orders
Great army /s
Or they DID follow orders…
It’s just they turned out to be hostages instead of random palestinian civilians…
Yeah, this trumps all the recent intense propaganda about the IDF being professional and meticulous.
Previously another 3 hostages were “found dead” and I’m now really wondering if they killed those too
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Biden can you support Isreal to defend itself against the IDF by not giving them anymore money or guns…
By mistake?
I do love how quickly that episode has been memed.
And the dance number. Got to love a villain that’s having fun with it.
Well, a fictional villain that has fun with their villainy. The real world examples are much less fun.
oops hehe sorry guys
The mistake part was they were the wrong hostages
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We should be furious with Hamas for using them as shields. Though again, Hamas has majority support amongst residents in Gaza, so…
Fighting in dense urban conditions like this, 18k is definitely an attempt to minimize civilian casualties. If they were intentionally causing them, they wouldn’t go in at all. They’d just kill magnitudes more (hundreds of thousands or millions) without risking soldiers. They easily have the firepower to do it.
We should all condemn their elected terrorists for forcing the theater to be amongst civilians. It’s a war crime, co-location strip protections, and legitimized targeting places that would otherwise be protected by international law.
Ohhhh, furious with Hamas or with the IDF, who killed 3 shirtless people waving a white flag? Are you living in a parallel reality or are you so brainwashed?
In an environment where that’s the standard tactic of Hamas, hide behind civilians, yeah, I understand the friendly fire. This is Hamas. They blew up their own hospital, hoping ppl like worldnews would blame Israel for it… and they did.
If you think that while hiding amongst civilians or while keeping hostages they aren’t trained to try and appear like innocents, then I don’t know how to help you. It’s literally their main tactic.
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I too would resort to name calling with a factually bankrupt argument and poor reasoning skills. Well done!
Poor reasoning skills? Sorry but even IDF admitted their fuck-up and said that it was against their rules of disengagement, while you still pretend that they did nothing wrong. So who’s morally bankrupt here? You who is refusing to admit the wrongdoings of your own people even when presented with clear undisputed facts or me?
They admit wrongdoing because they’re not intentionally targeting civilians.
To support your false narrative/pro-hamas propaganda, you’re attempting to conflate an accident during wartime as intentionally targeting civilians. It’s really not okay, and I am concerned for you.
You don’t know who “my people” are, but I see the attempt to start framing more personal attacks, and intent to libel further, and I get that you’ve embarrassed yourself multiple times and shown your true colors. You have my pity.
Ah yes, defending basic human rights is called nowadays pro-Hamas, thanks for enlightening me.
You should see how many people agree with your statements and how many with mine and perhaps you should start questioning your position.
how can one be so detached from reality?
I ask myself that all the time.
Hamas has majority support
Less than a quarter is a majority to you?
https://news.stanford.edu/report/2023/12/05/palestinians-views-oct-7
Did you read your own link? It was a pre-october 7th poll. Since then support for Hamas has skyrocketed according to more recent polling, as has support for the October 7th attack.
So, the catalyst for the new spike in approval appears to be war crimes and slaughter of civilians in Israel (aka Oct 7th).
Thank you, I will archive this for future reference as it makes my point even more clearly.
show me more recent polls then, otherwise your claims are worth less than nothing.
even if there was an increase of support for hamas, that would be unsurprising, if you ever looked at any conflict: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_'round_the_flag_effect
I have very little concern about the evaluation of the “worthiness of my claims” by someone who posts sources that contradict their own claims.
According to the poll results, some 59% of respondents indicated that they “extremely support” Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7, with another 16% saying that they “somewhat support” them.
Those figures are roughly in line with overall support for Hamas, with the poll finding that a cumulative 76% of respondents hold either a “very positive” or “somewhat positive” view of the group when asked to rank their support for a list of Palestinian political parties.
Lots of sources have reported on it. If you don’t like that one you can find many more.
Being a terrorist sympathizer is bad. You should change.
