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intelshill@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

NATO Claims Western Strikes on Yemen Are Defensive

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NATO Claims Western Strikes on Yemen Are Defensive

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intelshill@lemmy.ca to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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According to White, Iran has a "special responsibility" in controlling its proxy forces, the Houthis.

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    Targeting trade ships - particularly ships that aren’t going to and have no involvement with Israel - does nothing to stop genocide in Gaza.

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      Not with that attitude. inshallah-script

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      The fact the the US freaked out about this and spent the money it did trying and somewhat failing to stop it says otherwise.

      It’s pretty clear that Ansarallah are specifically targeting ships going to Israel, too. They also stopped during the short cease fire.

      There is a simple cheap way too end this that doesn’t include trying to kill people we’ve already tried to genocide from 2015 to … I can’t remember when Ansarallah won.

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        It’s pretty clear that Ansarallah are specifically targeting ships going to Israel, too.

        It isn’t. Only 5 ships targeted out of over 20 actually had anything to do with Israel. With various others, they basically find one Israeli national working for a parent company of the one that owns the vessel, and then claim that means it’s Israeli.

        There is a simple cheap way too end this that doesn’t include trying to kill people we’ve already tried to genocide from 2015 to …

        Saudi Arabia blockaded Yemen. The US joined in from 2015 to 2016, then left, SA kept it up all on their own after that. Claiming that the US genocided them is a massive, disingenuous stretch.

        Your claim is basically the same as saying that Iran took over Yemen and started the civil war, not the Houthis.

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      They’re targeting ships that are Israeli-owned or run, going to dock in Israel or flying the Israeli flag.

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        They’re not though. The vast majority of the ships they’ve targeted have no connection to Israel whatsoever.

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          Like? The examples I’m finding are linked to Israel.

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            This website has a good list of ships that have been attacked: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2023-12-31/ty-article-magazine/23-attacks-in-2-months-all-red-sea-ships-targeted-by-the-houthis/0000018c-5df7-d6f9-afbc-5dff7a430000 If you click each of the ships in the graphic you can see some details on them, as well as a link to a news story.

            This story covers 2 ships: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/red-sea-missile-attack-uk-us-central-command-ships-unity-explorer-number-9-houthi-yemen-b1124491.html The Unity Explorer is UK owned and flagged in the Bahamas, while the Number 9 is Panamanian flagged, Bermuda and UK owned.

            This story is for a Norwegan oil tanker called Strinda: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-12/ty-article/yemens-houthis-claim-attack-on-norwegian-oil-tanker-en-route-to-israel-in-the-red-sea/0000018c-5d0e-d0ec-afbe-df2e167c0000 The Houthis claimed it was heading for Israel but it was reportedly heading for Italy, however instead it diverted to a safe port.

            The Platinum III was headed for Saudi Arabia: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2023-12-15/ty-article/.premium/houthis-ramp-up-attacks-on-ships-in-red-sea-with-little-international-response/0000018c-6d6a-de43-affd-fd6ad2b60000 This container ship is flagged in Liberia and owned by MSC, a European company.

            Out of 21 or so ships targeted, only 5 were Israeli.

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              This story covers 2 ships:
              standard.co.uk/…/red-sea-missile-attack-uk-us-cen… The Unity Explorer is UK owned and flagged in the Bahamas, while the Number 9 is Panamanian flagged, Bermuda and UK owned.

              So apparently this

              Saree also identified the first vessel as the Unity Explorer, which is owned by a British firm that includes Dan David Ungar, who lives in Israel, as one of its officers. The Number 9 is linked to Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement.

              The Sophie II’s owner, Kyowa Kisen of Imabari, Japan, told The Associated Press that the ship’s crew were safe and the vessel did not sustain serious damage. Managers for the two other ships could not be immediately reached for comment.

              Israeli media identified Ungar as being the son of Israeli shipping billionaire Abraham “Rami” Ungar.

              exists, but yeah that’s weak. Can’t find anything for the other one, but if this is their standard for “Israel-related” then I can see why everyone is angry about it.

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                Yeah that’s exactly it, half the time when they claim it’s Israeli owned it’s like there’s one Israeli person in the parent company that doesn’t have anything to do with that ship. At this point though I think they’ve all but given up making that claim and just target whatever they like, then maybe come up with excuses after the fact. And they’ve directly attacked US warships now, which is what the US strike was in response to.

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