cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/2089850
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I heard a right wing sound bite on the radio a while back where they were saying “if you’re unsure and don’t know just vote no” Instead of informing and educating. Just put your head back in the sand. Inspiring stuff.
Yep, it is part of their campaign material that went out this week. Hopefully most of Australia sees through this scare campaign.
I’m sad for the indigenous folk that will have to go through this nonsense much like our queer friends did during the run up to the gay marriage plebiscite.
That’s so fucking sinister.
It hasn’t really gone well for the “yes” campaign.
Agree. I’m not feeling it in my conversations with people. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Also, if that is the case, then WHY? We should be asking that now, before the referendum.
If they voted against dethroning their tyrant I think you can stick a fork in any referendum threatening to give more of their people more of a voice in their government.
Are you talking republic vs monarchy? If so that vote was an eternity ago (1999). The Yes campaign was not regarded as being run especially well.
I expect another referendum on this to pass in my lifetime, most likely within the next decade once the Queen stuff dies down so to speak. My feeling is that support for a republic is there amongst the younger population so would likely get up, especially with the older generation dying off.
I feel like I need to read more on this topic.
What are the disadvantages of this? Why is there even a “No” voice on this matter? I feel like I’m missing something here…
Why is there even a “No” voice on this matter? I feel like I’m missing something here…
its called racism
I believe that’s a little knee jerk. My brother, who is a real rough and tough redneck type of guy, is researching it to see what it really means. He wants to understand what implications could lay ahead when voting either way. To call someone racist for wanting critical analysis and clarity doesn’t help. In fact, it drives division, in my opinion.
Your opinion is wrong.
It’s because the Australian constitution requires a referendum to amend
We need to have a vote on this because it is a constitutional change. There have been a few advisory bodies over the years, but then the opposition gets into power and they kill them off. Having it enshrined in the constitution means that will no longer be possible.
The details really aren’t that important. How the body is compromised isn’t going to be part of the constitution. And frankly, as a white person, it isn’t really my place to tell indigenous people how they should put this advisory body together. They’re not in parliament. They aren’t voting on bills. They don’t have veto rights. They just have a channel where they can speak on topics under discussion.
Before anyone starts to say even this is too much power, ask yourself how much power Rupert Murdoch should have. Because he and every other billionaire in the country has a pretty loud voice.
Not a lot is going to change from this. Why bother then? Listen to or read of the Uluru Statement From the Heart. It’s only a page long. There is no hidden agenda. 300+ first nation tribes from around the nation got together to make it.
The official booklet provides a summary of the main points for both sides, each given 5 pages. That said, there has been a lot of criticism about how these points have been explained and published, so it’s not a perfectly balanced explanation from either side, but it’s a start.
https://www.aec.gov.au/referendums/files/pamphlet/referendum-booklet.pdfAs you can see from comments, if you try to offer any considerations about the No side, someone from the Yes side will call you a racist.
The yes side has not done very well with this.
While I think something should be done, the yes side hasn’t made a good argument.
Giving one group of people extra rights based on their racial heritage and putting it in the constitution.
Telling us how and what,… AFTER it is voted on
AFTER.
You know,… “just trust us, we will work out the details later”
