https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJN93I-aEg Large-format 3D printing has been stuck in a frustrating paradox for years. You could have massive build volumes or you could have speed, but rarely both without spending industrial-level money. Consider the Prusa XL with its respectable 360×360×360mm build volume crawling along at conservative speeds, or the Bambu X1 Carbon screaming at 500mm/s but
This is interesting. Soval has become the budget open source brand. While everyone else is trying to prevent the competition from stealing ideas, Soval has been the contrarian and has been very up front about their desire to be open source.
I have 3 concerns:
First, advertised speeds are never what you can get in the real world. Due to the constant need for changing directions while actually printing. The machines can seldom get enough distance to reach their full speeds. 40,000mm/sec2 means little if the best you can get is 5000mm/sec2 due to all the short moves. So I’ll be curious to hear of what the real speeds are from consumers out in the real world.
Secondly, Soval does not have the best reputation for QC and responsiveness to problems. And they do have problems. It appears you can’t expect Prusa or Bambu level support if disgruntled users can be believed.
And finally, do you really need that print volume at a consumer level? Just how many life sized Mando helmets or Dwyane The Rock Lobsters are you going to print? At $1200, (projected street price), that is a lot of money to spend for a machine that might get used to capacity once or twice over the years you might own it.
$1,200 is Voron and RatRig territory. Vorons cap out at 350 mm3 for build volume and 500mm3 rat rigs are $1,550. I agree that plenty of folks are probably over buy on printers, but if you want this kind of build volume the price seems reasonable - especially for a printer that ships assembled. Personally, I went the Voron route and if I wanted a larger printer I would probably either just make my 350mm taller or go the RatRig route.
That said, high velocity on a large format printer isn’t that useful for big prints IMO. You’re probably going be running a bigger nozzle and laying down wide/tall extrusions, which means you’re probably going to be limited by how fast your extruder can melt plastic. That’s the case on my Voron with a Rapido HF with “only” a 0.6mm nozzle, 0.8mm extrusion widths, and 0.3mm layer heights.
Half planning a frankenvoron with an old CR10 and a few bits and pieces of extra 2040 I planned on making a control box for it with. How do you find it?
I personally am pretty happy with my 2.4, although I would suggest skipping the cable chains and going to an umbilical. I went the nitehawk route. If you’re going to be printing ASA or ABS add an under bed carbon filter and bedfans. I would also suggest skipping to ACM panels if you plan on big ASA/ABS prints.
If you dig through my comments you can see me talking about it. Mechanical bed leveling, that actually squares the gantary to the bed, and Z calibration make for very consistent first layers.
This is interesting. Soval has become the budget open source brand. While everyone else is trying to prevent the competition from stealing ideas, Soval has been the contrarian and has been very up front about their desire to be open source.
I have 3 concerns:
First, advertised speeds are never what you can get in the real world. Due to the constant need for changing directions while actually printing. The machines can seldom get enough distance to reach their full speeds. 40,000mm/sec2 means little if the best you can get is 5000mm/sec2 due to all the short moves. So I’ll be curious to hear of what the real speeds are from consumers out in the real world.
Secondly, Soval does not have the best reputation for QC and responsiveness to problems. And they do have problems. It appears you can’t expect Prusa or Bambu level support if disgruntled users can be believed.
And finally, do you really need that print volume at a consumer level? Just how many life sized Mando helmets or Dwyane The Rock Lobsters are you going to print? At $1200, (projected street price), that is a lot of money to spend for a machine that might get used to capacity once or twice over the years you might own it.
Sovol, it’s literally in the title
$1,200 is Voron and RatRig territory. Vorons cap out at 350 mm3 for build volume and 500mm3 rat rigs are $1,550. I agree that plenty of folks are probably over buy on printers, but if you want this kind of build volume the price seems reasonable - especially for a printer that ships assembled. Personally, I went the Voron route and if I wanted a larger printer I would probably either just make my 350mm taller or go the RatRig route.
That said, high velocity on a large format printer isn’t that useful for big prints IMO. You’re probably going be running a bigger nozzle and laying down wide/tall extrusions, which means you’re probably going to be limited by how fast your extruder can melt plastic. That’s the case on my Voron with a Rapido HF with “only” a 0.6mm nozzle, 0.8mm extrusion widths, and 0.3mm layer heights.
Afaik the SV08 is Voron derived.
Half planning a frankenvoron with an old CR10 and a few bits and pieces of extra 2040 I planned on making a control box for it with. How do you find it?
I personally am pretty happy with my 2.4, although I would suggest skipping the cable chains and going to an umbilical. I went the nitehawk route. If you’re going to be printing ASA or ABS add an under bed carbon filter and bedfans. I would also suggest skipping to ACM panels if you plan on big ASA/ABS prints.
If you dig through my comments you can see me talking about it. Mechanical bed leveling, that actually squares the gantary to the bed, and Z calibration make for very consistent first layers.