• WanderWisley@lemmy.world
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    Maybe after Trump and everyone else on the list is dead and gone maybe then the list will come out. But even that is very unlikely.

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    Why didn’t Biden release it?

    Is he or one of his family members on the list? Well I mean he already pardoned his son, so I have no doubt he abused his position of power to protect someone.

    This is what happens when people don’t vote in primaries. Now I’m not even sure there will be a next election.

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      I’ve got two minds on this. On the one hand, that’s a great and valid question. Why didn’t they? They should’ve.

      On the other hand, this is yet another infuriating case of playing DIRECTLY into the GOPs hands. We have such an OBVIOUS, BLATANT cover up by Trump to avoid all consequences, yet we’re here asking “but why didn’t Biden do it??? His fault actually” and in that light, I don’t fucking care, focus on the current guy

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        The reason is, because obviously trump was not going to do it. So Biden was the only path way. Except… well dnc party doaners are also on the list, so of course Biden wasn’t going to release it.

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    Trump could be on video r**ing a 12 year old while Epstein holds her down and suddenly pedophilia would be the biggest republican trend. (I mean it kind of already is when you look at who gets caught most often)

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    If this shit is releasable like that, then why didn’t Biden do it? Fuck trump, maga, conservatives, etc. but why is it such an L that Trump predictably tries to make it go away but it’s fine that when the Ds had the WH they didn’t do shit?

    Each side is just playing this performative ‘release the list!!!’ when they aren’t in power. Disgusting no matter who is hiding this shit.

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      both parties are severely compromised.

      that’s why.

      rich and powerful are all the same scum. just one is openly racist, and the other one is more closeted racist.

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        You consider the Democratic party to be racist? How so? I mean, you said they’re in the closet about it, but still, I just don’t see it. They’re corrupt as fuck, yeah, but racist?

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          Not OP but I would say the white savior complex is racist and it is less overtly used on the left but it is still used.

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          I dont think they are like the rural lynch mob level of racist, but more like the classmate that makes racist “jokes” then be like “it’s just a joke, man” type of racist.

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          remember when they were all in favour of BLM and defund the police but all they didnwas raise police budgets?

          or completely ignore and promote systemic racism sonthe US schools are now more segregated than during Jim Crow?

          They are there to basically do nothing and protect the status quo that conservatives are creating.

          lets not forget how much they care when a white nation is invaded, but when a brown nation is invaded and genocided it is time to supply weapons to facilitate that genocide?

          Or when they cried about how cruel Trump was for putting children in concentration camps, but even Biden won, he continued the program because fuck brown children?

          yhea, Democrats are purely performative closeted conservatives. while republicans are openly conservatives.

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          I can say I’ve not seen a single political party try to do anything about the systemic racism and race oppression in this nation, in my life time. 8 years with a black president doesn’t mean anything when the national standard is still to oppress minorities. So no, they aren’t out here calling people slurs, but they certainly aren’t doing anything to improve it and that makes them guilty enough.

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    Publicly release all documents in the Epstein files that mention or reference Donald Trump.

    Why not release the whole thing? :^)

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      Why not ask for this before they all of a sudden don’t exist? Almost like it’s stagecraft.

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        Because Bondi said it was on her desk for review in February.

        Biden’s admin didn’t tamper with the DoJ, to a fault, since Garland was slow-walking everything related to Trump

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      Because Democrats are not your friends, and this is just another attempt to keep up the illusion that they fight on our behalf.

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    The justice department also released video surveillance of the hallway outside of Epstein’s cell, although the digital clock on the tape skipped from 11:58:58pm to 12:00am. Officials did not address the jump and added that no further materials would be made public.

    Ah yes, the hallway footage with a minute cut out of it. The only footage we have because the camera in his cell was coincidentally not operational. And the only account we have of the events because both of the guards who were assigned to watching the most high-profile dude in the prison, while he was on suicide watch, in a camera-less cell, happened to both be asleep.

    Surely this guy totally killed himself

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      This is American fascisms version of “died by falling out of a window”. They’re making it obvious they can disappear you if you become a problem for them; maybe even implicate you in CP to destroy your life before they take your life.

      The fact that D’s refused to release any of this strongly indicates Epstein island was an intelligence honeypot. How does the west feel about their “democracies” secret police enabling and protecting pedophiles as part of intelligence gathering and information warfare? That would be worse than any common war crime IMO.

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        It’s not unrealistic that a billionaire staring down the rest of his life in prison would choose to go out on their own terms. It’s also ultimately unknowable for any of us normies exactly what went down in that cell, but don’t discount the possibility that he simply chose to off himself rather than deal with all of the unpleasantness he had to look towards

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          I’m more inclined to believe it was a least awful choice. He was a billionaire. Even with all the proof against him, he was never going to be in a normal prison. He killed himself because he had dirt on someone who had keys to the box they were going to put him in and dying on your own was a hell of a lot better than what they might do.

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            Nah, if I was a criminal, I’d try to drag everyone down with me before I die, I mean, either you suceed, or die trying. Why would I, as a (hypothetical) criminal with no morals end myself earlier?

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      The video is 11 hours of a static room. Even in the age of AI, it’s totally impossible to fake. Technology can’t yet take another 11 hour video and slap a different timestamp on it, we’re at least 1000 years away from that. So it’s definitely real. Nothing to see here guys.

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    What’s sad is we already have a good idea on Trump’s crimes documented in the files. Trump and epstin victims have already come forward! We know Trump is a pedo, Trump supporters know he’s a pedo (for most deep Christians they like that about him.)

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    Who fucking cares? What is it going to do really? There has been so much publicity of their relationship, it doesn’t change anything. Will it result in charges against Trump? Unlikely, the only one I know of who was willing to put herself and her family at risk, is dead (suicide).

    His supporters will find a way to excuse anything away. There could be a picture of Trump assaulting a young teen and they would just say it’s not his fault she looked older than she was.

    To those in this thread saying anything released shouldn’t be redacted, remember there were victims, this wasn’t just Jeff and Don having a brobait with each other.

    I’m sick of the Democrats and their shitty platitudes, because that’s all this is. Demand compassion and due process for the millions being terrified by federally protected kidnappers. Demand that Republicans meet to discuss the phasing out of some of the TPS rules (temporary is in the name and just because there is an EO doesn’t mean there can’t be a law that changes it). Demand that we stop defending the atrocities of megalomaniacs around the world. Demand that the legislative branch takes back the power of the purse and writes laws to affect trade.

    Might be the only time I agree with the ball of congealed Cheeto vomit, but why the fuck are we still talking about Epstein?

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        Apologists forget that Dems held majority at various times and squandered it.

        They had their time to be good people and do the right things. Instead they paved way for fascism in their service to capital.

        Everyone complaining about the various things the Dems do is reflective of people seeing them for the farce that they are. In essence, they are controlled resistance - a black hole to swallow up progressive movements and snuff them out before it threatens anything economically.

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          Let’s see- passed the ACA which wasn’t great but did so with the bare majority they had. IRA during Biden which passed by the skin of its teeth. Of course DoJ should’ve done way more, etc. but that, forgiving as much student loans as Biden could, IRA was the biggest climate bill ever, etc.

          Sure- it wasn’t perfect but I don’t think they “squandered” it at all.

          But hey- it obviously wasn’t enough so it was only right to not vote in LOCAL primaries, etc. and not vote in the general election for Democrats so the Republicans could take yet another wrecking ball to everything. SURELY the goals of liberals and progressives are much closer now that Republicans have power again.

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      Who fucking cares? Obviously a lot of people troll. Donald stated he was going to release it… Bimbo Bondi stated it was on her desk… getting released soon. Now they don’t want it released. We know his name and other Dems are on it. We’ve seen many pictures released with him and Donald together with girls.

      Yeah… we care.

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      Demand compassion and due process for the millions being terrified by federally protected kidnappers…

      And demand it with loud, coordinated, unifier voices. Do it unequivocally. None of this single statement, some “concern”, some calling for vague “resistance”, etc. Being weak and disorganized will do nothing.