• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    This behaviour needs to die.

    It’s not reasonable for companies to charge subscriptions to hardware that you own that require zero external connections.

    The engine is not a connected component. There is zero reason it would ever be constrained by connected features.

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      You forgot this little point.

      You own a non-exclusive, intransferable licence to use and operate said car.

      Yes, you paid for it. But it’s not really yours. You own its body. Someone else still owns its spirit. And they want a rent for you to be able to touch the spirit.

      Why would they do that?

      Obviously, becaude that shit flies. Why not do it? Money is money. And companies exist for it. Fuck morality. Fuck common sense. They only care about the little green lines.

      Customer satisfaction?

      Not even an afterthought.

      In a sane world, everyone would think like you. I do, for one.

      The problem is everyone else who doesn’t. They’ll put up with it, accept the thinly-veiled excuses, and the company will see "wow, we can do that now? Gee, these people are stoopid. Let’s see how far we can take it.

      Honestly, I see where they’re coming from. Not that I support it. But it is a rational decision on their part.

      In a sane world, the smart employee who came up with this would be fired promptly, because if the company were to carry this shit out, they’d get so much bad press it’d take over a decade to recover.

      But alas, we don’t live in a sane world and clearly enough consumers are either idiots or ignorant for this shit to fly.

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        I hate it so much. It’s absolutely crazy how companies can be so anti consumer and get away with it because they market it well. Still can’t have a decent group chat if someone’s on an Apple device. That new car tracks you and sells the info, now you need to pay to unlock it’s full potential. The new os is always online and shares your info non-stop, it’ll continue to push it’s privacy invading AI until you give up. You don’t actually own that game you bought, it’s a license and we can revoke it because fuck you.

        I’m so fucking tired of being the weirdo because I stand by my morals and won’t let them get away with fucking me over.

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      Did you know that actually happens with jet engines for a long time now? Companies lease jet engines and they have licenses for a certain number of engines in different max outputs, they can even transfer between them like, one 100% engine got damaged so they they transfer the 100% license to an 80% engine while it is in maintenence (all numbers are made up but the idea is the same).

      But yeah, shit is fucked.

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        20 hours ago

        Even the transmissions in school buses have worked this way for more than two decades now. The Allison 2500-series is built with 6 gears (plus one reverse) but usually 6th gear is disabled in the software as users buy the 5-gear variant. The 6-gear variant is more expensive and 5-gear buyers can upgrade to that down the road if they want to - or you can crack it with widely-available software, something that many people in the skoolie community take advantage of.

        At least 6th gear isn’t a subscription service … yet.

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          Considering that the purpose of that 6th gear would be to lower the fuel consumption, that means we have a bunch of buses running around burning more fuel and polluting more all in the name of more profits.

          At least school buses spend a lot of time driving around at relatively low speeds so the lack of the extra gear probably has little real-world effect for most of the time, but still…

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            we have a bunch of buses running around burning more fuel and polluting more

            An even worse factor is that EPA regulations governing diesel engine emissions specify allowed emissions in terms of horsepower-miles, which means that more powerful engines are allowed to emit more pollutants per mile. This has led to school buses becoming over-engined compared to what they used to be a few decades ago (in the '90s bus engines in the neighborhood of 200 hp were typical, now 350 hp is normal). This is good for lead-footed bus drivers and the people behind the buses (I guess), but not so good for the air. And of course EPA diesel regulations specify nothing about greenhouse gas emissions.

            At least school buses have the intrinsic efficiencies of mass-transportation behind them. If parents were driving all these kids to school instead, the net emissions would be vastly worse. Of course most of these kids could walk or bicycle instead …

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        That kind of makes sense in context, since for leasing it’s not their hardware and they’re probably doing accounting based on the amortized costs of using them

        But no I did not know that and it is pretty cool