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@AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world.
If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.
There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.
You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.
If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.
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I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using #cryptomator, but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.
Cryptomator official website Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)
Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.
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Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.
If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.
There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.
You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.
If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.
i’ve recently figured out how dynamic DNSs work, i am unstoppable.
now i just need to figure out how to encrypt traffic…
LetsEncrypt offers free SSL certificates, if you’re familiar with reverse proxies then it’s not too difficult to implement. I have mine set up to automatically renew my wildcard cert, then send a special signal to the nginx docker container for it to reload the SSL certs
A more onedrive/google drive-like alternative to Nextcloud would be Syncthing, which is E2EE and doesn’t need additional config of SSL certs and the like
I got some angry letters from my ISP when I was younger for using dynamic DNS, ranging from it being a virus to it violating their terms.
No idea of they still get pissy about it or not.
what a shitty ISP. but i’m one to talk, i’m basically limited to two daughter companies of Telekom. god, internet sucks here.
They sold business packages and wanted us to buy one
With Nextcloud, when you, install maps, the location logging app, uploads your photos, you can see your life laid out over a time access. It’s scary it you normally give all that to say Google or Apple.
Surprised people turn on location data
If it’s only to your own servers, it is much less of an issue. Use Firefox and it will ask your permission if a site requests it.
Do you know if nextcloud is foss? Do you know any that are?
Yes, it’s licensed under GNU AGPL 3.0.
Perfect, looks like I have a small project to get started on!
They’re a FOSS fork of ownCloud.
Any chance you could explain the basics of how the Hetzner thing would work? I’m noob
You go to this website from Hetzner:
https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share
You sign up for one of the plans, cheapest is 5.11 EUR a month. You’ll get 1 TB of storage for this.
Storage Share is essentially some space on a server from Hetzner where the Nextcloud software is already running.
Their customer support is the worst I’ve ever experienced though. If nothing goes wrong,I guess they’re okay.
I’d recommend skiff instead as not self hosted alternative
I havent yet dealt with the customer service so this is indeed something to keep in the back of my head.
Does internxt and skiff also provide fully setup nextcloud instances or do you need to set it up yourself?
I’m reading that nextcloud tends to break whenever you update it or perform administrative tasks. Hetzner does al this for you so that’s a bonus item.
Both of them are just encrypted cloud storage, not a private cloud like nextcloud
I can copy past this on the resume ? Is it ok for you, I clearly agree, and don’t use that shit of DB ofc. I keep this link for relatives though
Don’t really know what you mean with resume but you can copy and paste this anywhere you want.
For real sorry, I’ve read what I wrote 🤣.
I meant the body of this post.
I’ve been using Nextcloud hosted by Hetzner for more than a year and it’s been working great.
I love you so much right now
😊 ☺️
not bad too, i will not edit the body with that because i think it can be against the ToS of Google, and if not and that’s become a popular solution, that will be for sure in it then.
You can loose your account so easily with them, so its better to be “reliable” ^^
I deleted my account.
😍✊
Same, it’s kind of a symbolic gesture since I apparently haven’t used DB since 2018, but still, I cited them sharing files with AI companies as the reason.
Yet another reminder that the cloud is just a fancy name for someone else’s computer.
Not really that fancy. It’s just a marketing euphemism. The giving of a cool name to something very mundane.
You’re right, it’s just a clouded way of saying 'someone else’s computer '.
Of course it is. Just a reminder that IaaS > SaaS. Host your own stuff, it’s not that hard, amd nobody will come snooping.
DropBox has been dead to me since 2014 when they put former US Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice on their board of directors.
Even less shocking, this can’t be disabled in mobile browsers.
Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.
Syncthing is great!
Yeah true,
Holidays or not, I’m in 420 consumer mod, I don’t think XD. I edit :p
I do not see that option under the Dropbox settings.
They are not testing this for every account. But you should check your settings every so often.
Or better yet just stop using dropbox.
This feature is a thing if your account:
- On Dropbox Professional, Essentials, Business, Business Plus, and some customers on Dropbox Standard and Advanced.
- In countries with the preferred language set to English. Excluding Canada, the UK (United Kingdom), and countries within the EEA (European Economic Area).
Would recommend going through that article in general, this is yet another great example how people start to go nuts without understanding something.
We need to move away from proprietary “cloud” solutions.
The only real way to opt out of this shit is to start using a better cloud and nuke Dropbox from every computer you own
If it’s not open source and self hosted, I think it will probably turn out just the same as Dropbox. It’s the power dynamic. Closed SaaS, on someone else’s computers, is a very weak position. Not surprising when the relationship turns abusive.
There is pCloud which is based in Switzerland which has mostly the same regulation as the EU. They specifically state that they won’t use your data for commercial purposes. Until the company merges or gets bought I guess.
Ofc if it’s not end-to-end encrypted and all open source and self hosted, you can’t really be sure.
They specifically state that they won’t use your data for commercial purposes. Until the company merges or gets bought I guess.
Which you won’t hear about until after all the existing data has been scraped off the servers. The company, if bought, will be bought for the value of their data stores and whatever corporation purchases them will specifically want to keep the news quiet until after they’ve gotten their value out of the data store. Therefore this is a non-starter as you may as well just hand the info to Dropbox today.
I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using #cryptomator, but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.
Cryptomator official website
Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.
Body of the post edited :),
Thanks for your input,
If you have to use cloud storage, encrypt the files before you upload them
There’s always Cryptomator too. VeraCrypt also works and syncs quickly.
Yep, I have a decently large free dropbox account and just use Cryptomator to continue using it
Time to fill dropbox with gos of eroticas.
Finally, someone will read John/John, my series of erotic John Oliver / Elton John fanfictions.
Awesome photo choice!
“What’s in the box?”
Self hosting isn’t a solution to replace off site storage.
you can have a nextcloud without self hosting.
But you will pay with money and not with your private contentYeah, I forget that sometImes.
If you can self host, you can run a custom cloud instance.
I think the implication is that if your house burns down, your important shit is backed up elsewhere
Exactly. Custom cloud instance. That’s where you’re using the likes of AWS or Azure to run your machines but you’re in control of all the software and maintenance shit, just like you would be if you self hosted.
If you can do one, you can mostly do the other. I tend to put some wireguard VPN servers in front of my cloud boxes though for security reasons
You can selfhost Syncthing without having a server, using your daily devices.
Which is great, but still does nothing for off-site storage.
You always have at least one off site backup of anything important. For most people, that’s going to be some kind of cloud service. What you use to access that can vary a good bit (as someone reminded me, nextcloud services you can use rather than have it all be on site exist), but syncthing would require that you have someone else willing to have a device at their house, always connected, for it to be a viable pick this that aspect.
Don’t get me wrong, syncthing is awesome, but it isn’t a total solution by itself. Hell, my redundant off site backup is less hassle, tbh. I just swap out external drives when I visit my best friend. I take the most updated one, leave it and bring home the previous one from his place. It’s always a little behind, but it isn’t reliant on connectivity lol.
That’s what I was getting at. If all of your backups are at the same place, physically, you don’t actually have backups, you just have redundant copies. A backup that can be destroyed at the same time as other backups or the original isn’t really a backup at all. It’s good enough for a drive dying, but not for bigger events.
That’s what I was getting at, I just forgot that nexcloud services exist.
Your smartphone is already an always connected device, and you can manually do periodical backups on external drives which is a good practice in any case.
You can also set which device rules the file modification (sent or receive only as a folder).
I think it’s ok for most of the people. If you have a tons of precious files to save I can agree with you, but I think this type of “off-grid self-hosting” is just the future of personal data management.
