What do modern devs need more than ttys for if they’re just shipping ai generated code that nobody takes the time to review properly?
I’m not a computer guy. I’m a bicycle guy.
I build them up myself, buy cheap ones on ebay to fix and modify, know basically all there is to know about stem standards, drivetrain compatibility, etc.I currently have 6 non-functional bikes in my garage.
The key is to call them all “pet projects” that are “still being worked on” and then not do anything with them for another month.
(Engineering/Tech guy here)
just a month?
Renew as needed :)
I just bought my fourth oneplus 6 phone. Two are non functional. Maybe this will be the one where I finally get linux running on my phone lol
I also have four non functional bikes
Hey, I am also trying to get OnePlus 6 for that purpose.
Or N900 for shits and giggles.you can get em new in the box on ebay. the used ones can be sketch.
eBay is pretty useless where I am. At least with their filtering. If only they included shipping in price filter.
Otherwise, the average item is along the lines of $5 + $50 shipping.yeah these ship from china so whatever that costs where you are.
Yeah, they are either shipped accross the world or some scumbag that tries to make easy money (ebay don’t tax you on the money for the shipping)
I’ve seen “my other car is 10 motorcycles that don’t run” stickers before and I felt personally attacked
N+1
Any functional bikes tho? [or should I guess lol]
Yes, 1.
Me but with cameras. I have 2, maybe 3 working ones. Lots and lots of bits of others.
Do you have at least one functioning one?
And also
Btw, downloading a CD (.iso) on the phone to boot it, because your Linux broke while you had no bootable thumbdrive around. Is something a lot of people here did sometime.
PSA: get a cheap thumb drive and install ventoy. You’ll never regret it!
Plus you can technically still use it to store files if you make a directory in the ventoy dump partition.
I keep memtest86+, clonezilla, Ubuntu 24.04lts, gparted, and boot-repair on the drive.
maybe not ventoy specifically since it’s full of binary blobs that are virtually unvettable
I’ve got a binary blob right here 🥵
my blob is non binary
Eh, good enough. Your Linux install also has binary blobs.
That’s a terrible reason to introduce even more.
Yeah, I need to find a better way. Been trying to setup pxe boot in docker
Always been partial to this one
I never even thought of that - you then plug in your phone as a thumb drive? Makes sense.
I mean I’m not sure I could actually boot off of my phone as a USB drive. That would be an interesting concept.
Unlikely. The USB protocol requires one master and one or more slaves (or whatever less charged nomenclature you prefer). In all likelihood UEFI will blindly assume to be the master while Android and iOS require negotiation to figure out who’s boss and what interface to present.
Although given UEFI it might be possible to patch that functionality in.The USB protocol and UEFI aren’t a problem, but Android/iOS might be. I’ve booted various PCs from a raspberry pi (USB-OTG), but the last time I tried to boot an iso from my android phone I couldn’t get it to work. It’s been a while so I can’t remember exactly what the issue was.
My guess the issue is that phones don’t just show up as simple drives, they rely on MTP support
Yeah, that sounds right.
That’s what I was referring to with “which interface to present.”
The problem isn’t on the PC side, though. It’s on the side of the device that has to choose between host or device. The PC is always a host, so special support in UEFI isn’t needed.
i had this feature when i installed ubports (ubuntu touch) on my phone in 2021.
much before that in 2013 my phone’s stock rom had a ‘driver install’ mode that presents an iso file in the system partition to the computer as a virtual cdrom, i could swap out that file with a linux iso and it would boot
There’s a tool, whose name I forget, which is included in Kali NetHunter to do just that. It does whatever trickery is needed to present the phone/tablet as a bootable thumb drive. It requires root and, to my dismay when I needed it, I never owned a device that was rootable to fully use NetHunter. It could do a lot of other cool stuff via USB too; phone as a Bad USB, Rubber Ducky, automated Windows login bypasses, etc.
It does, though with an app that exposes the iso.
Edit: Right, i thought it was EtchDroid. I think it was DriveDroid (with a broken cert)? There’s also SimpleBoot now.
That looks like a program that is using your phone to write an ISO to a USB using your phone, not using your phone as a bootable source. But, still useful.
Edited, thanks.
Been there, done that
I had that exact situation but simply went to the library to fix it. Modern phones scare me.
Just a couple days ago I needed a microsd to usb adapter. Couldn’t find one, so I loaded the files to a memory with fat usb(I don’t know what it’s called) and usb c connections. Then connected the memory to my phone and on my phone I moved the files to the microsd card.
Not the same but similar vibes I think.
It’s sad that several phones are removing the memory slot.
Fat USB is called USB A. The one you use for printers is USB B. Then there are mini-A, mini-B, micro-A, micro-B and USB 3.0 micro-B which are all different shapes physically. And USB A 3.0 has slightly different contacts from USB A 1.0/2.0
Anyway, that was when USB nomenclature was still simple. Don’t google anything they did past version 3.0, for your own sanity. We’re now down to mostly the USB C and A shapes, but USB 3.2 gen 1x1 is the same thing as USB 3.1 gen 1 is the same thing as USB 3.0.
USB 4 simplified things a bit, but now you can get things like
Gen 4 asymmetric 3:1What have we done…
It seems we need a new standard to prevent all this confusion…
Yes, “wantonly” is spelled correctly here. I looked at it and immediately it felt wrong so this is for any like me who’s only ever heard it said.
Also, broke my Codium install today, no idea how but it won’t load debug values now, woo.
Ngl I always assumed it had a racist origin
Surprisingly wanton and wonton are completely unrelated. Wanton comes from middle english wantowen, which is the prefix wan- (meaning ‘not’) and towen (meaning ‘educated’). So it literally means ‘uneducated’ or ‘undisciplined’.
Wantonly sounds like a place, like Wantonly Michigan or something like that.
I suppose they could rename Hell
But what will Hell be known for then?
Regularly freezing over?
My computer configuration is best described as a construction of duct tape and chewing gum holding a house of cards in place
Tbh my server is getting a bit that way too, which is slightly more concerning
If you water cool it you can call yourself a plumber too
So you’re running McGyver-OS?
I have two live hdds resting on high density foam on top of my server. Will be three soon. I really should get a bigger case…
My partner would text me ‘what did you do’ when I had a day off and audiobookshelf stopped working. This is why I only tinker after midnight
Yeah… ive been meaning to get audiobookshelf setup, but it looked like a pain so it’s been sitting there untouched. That along with needing to migrate from Plex to Jellyfin, my projects pile up.
ABS is actually quite easy if you already have a library for audiobooks on Plex
Just install ABS on the same box and point it at the same folder and it will do most of the rest itself
Remote access is a bit of a pain though. I’m using tailscale for it. I wish there was a better, more universal (also free) 2fa solution out there but it just doesn’t exist.
ABS is actually quite easy
Well yeah, you just depress the brake pedal
What? He is obviously talking about a broken piece of ABS plastic.
Does mTLS work with ABS? That’s how I control access to many of my “exposed” services.
I got it up and running in about 10 minutes just yesterday, but that’s probably because I had already spent a couple of days learning how to use quadlets and getting my remote access scheme figured out.
I just set it up with my Docker setup. Point it at the appropriate volumes and it pretty much goes. GUI tools for Docker help. I like Dockge.
Even with docker, things can get complicated. Like if you use *arr stack for your plex library, but you manually copied in some extra subtitle files, or tweaked the descriptions of some media. Now you have to find those customizations so you can migrate them to the jellyfin library
I also wait until my partner is asleep. It still doesn’t make me 100% safe from the ‘what did you do’ texts, because sometimes I break things that I don’t think to check. Worse, sometimes I break something so bad that I stay up until 6am trying to fix it, only to cook my brain and pass out without fully repairing what went wrong.
But it’s still better than doing it during the day.
I only do networking after midnight. I have pulled 4+ hrs after breaking the network more than once.
This is me last Friday. Wanted SSO passkey so bad I pulled an all-nighter to make it work between 3 different machines.
I love passkey so I adamant on Pocket ID. End up hammering on it till 3AM with no success in sight, turns-out nothing is wrong with anything config-wise. I just wasn’t aware the bridge network you create didn’t enable ipv6 by default. Passed out at 5AM lol.
Now my sistet can’t complaint about so many password to manage.
End up canceling going out with friends Saturday night cuz I was already sleeping soundly at 8 PM.
I haven’t tried passkeys, I honestly probably have too many apps that don’t support it. Hell I get annoyed by apps that don’t have ldap integration. Looking at you paperless-ngx.
many apps that don’t support it.
Yeah, that is one thing making it harder. I use traefik-forward-auth/tiny Auth for that and honestly I still can’t make some apps work properly.
But at least the most used one are in place now and seems fine UX-wise (JF, vaultwarden, navidrome and frigate).
I’m doing this just because I want to stop relying on CF tunnel and just use my public ipv6, but I don’t think I’m ready security-wise.
And cf tunnel and other overlay network solution like Tailscale have a penalty on performance for me because their closest server are on the neighboring country.
Sounds like a very similar situation to car mechanics
Except it doesn’t hurt your back as much to fix.
There’s the German saying, that the shoemaker always has the worst shoes.
Is Spain we say that the blacksmith uses wooden spoons.
Wouldn’t that mean something else?
The saying literally translates to “in the house of a blacksmith there are wooden spoons”. In Poland we say “the shoemaker walks in shoes with holes”. They all just means that people who build things as their job don’t have the time to build those things for themselves.
But why doesn’t the blacksmith have spoons which are bent or something. Blacksmith using wooden spoons sound to me like a technician that doesn’t use tech in his private life.
It just means he uses cheaper spoons made by someone else, not fancy metal spoons.
In America we say “never buy a mechanic’s car.”
I am a computer person. My philosophy is probably a common one, if it works don’t touch it.
I am an Arch user. My philosophy is probably just as common: if it works, I must fuck with it
The truthest truth, but also the hardest one to follow
It’s a common philosophy practiced by everyone that says, “yeah, I probably shouldn’t mess with this, it is working fine right now, but … Maybe …”
Well, we profess to follow it at least.
This is why you keep 2 computers. One that is dull and as stock as you can. And then you have that beater box to get stupid with. Drive the sum biotch right into that kernal panic at 100mph just for fun.
So therapeutic some days…
Mac and a half a dozen server homelab. Plex was a homelab test that’s now “prod” (family won’t let me shut it off) so it’s in the prod environment outside of my homelab
My Mac is supposed to be the safe box too. I keep having to talk myself down from installing Asahi.
Haha I have an older m1 I’m about to put asahi on. Going to use it for small models
You and me both.
A good excuse to get another cheap box to crash and burn!
Any excuse to hoard more hardware these days
I feel this one
That’s not how it works.
- Okay, let’s read a chapter of this book about Software Design.
- I need to take notes
- Ugh, it sucks that I have to do three steps to open them
- Let’s write a short fish script
- Actually is there a more elegant note taking app
- Research
- Setting up the most over engineered zettelkasten solution
- It’s time for bed, you have two broken note taking apps, but still an open to do to read a chapter of that book
If you think that is a true story, you are absolutely right.
I feel seen.
Me too. Interest in comuters combined with ADHD leads to interesting side quests sometimes. They might not end up being productive, but I often learn a few things along the way.
That’s continuing the tradition leve stuff right there.
Fastest I ever got a kernel panic was ~50mph. There are photos.
Nice!
Not as nice as you’d think. I was in a train crash.
- We tried setting up hyprland with Arch
- Used an older guide, updated and translated it to the newest standard, learning about the unique scripting
- Get almost everything working
- Actually loved the feel of the ui and did get used to using terminal for almost everything
- Things started falling apart
- Steam started fucking up, everything was going horrible.
- joined the support discord, found problem doing good over more :)
- Update? Oo oki!
- Hyprland: hmm nice fully custom set up you have here, would be a shame if someone were to change all the ui script you literally just learned :)
- :(
- Back on KDE + Cachy OS as we didn’t want to fight with our computer anymore, it’s good, great even, but… missing the window management of Hyprland now.
- Don’t get us wrong, we’re very happy with KDE! It’s just… that window management 🥺
- if only we could get that in KDE
I like Niri a lot. Plus the maintainer isn’t an asshole.
Haven’t heard of Niri, what’s that one all about?
It’s a column-based tiling window manager, with scrolling!
That’s why sway and river exist. They’re actually stable.
Sway still struggling with screensharing (specifically window sharing) tho or atleast it was last time I yried it in february :(
Sway 1.12, released last week, added support for capturing individual windows.
Yay it worked, still not usable for me tho, since XWayland fucks up too many applications I need and moving windows with my mod key + left mouse does not count as a single input which then opens rofi which is bound to mod qq
I had that issue with the mod key launcher too, but instead of looking up a proper fix I turned my Capslock key into my launcher lol
For river, I had to do some kind of fix. I’ll talk about it later. Reply if I forget.
Haven’t heard of them before tbh, from the replies Sway not be super stable. And river?
I have my (edit: RIVER) config for over a year and it’s very reliable. It never broke on me apart from the misconfigurations which were my fault.
It also integrates well with Waybar and is compatible with other Wayland tools for wlroots.
But keep in mind that my config is relatively minimal.
Hyprland is cancer by cancer
my linux honeymoon has far gone. nowadays I just use fedora gnome and actually work on something that makes money.
This really is the journey, isn’t it?
Tinkering is fun when your actual goal is to tinker.
But when your goal is to get work done then the machine is just a tool, and there is nothing more frustrating than a broken tool.
I’m still tinkering but insofar to keep myself from doing anything else with my computer, I got shit to do.
my linux honeymoon has far gone.
Reminded me of:
In the spring, we climbed the rolling hills
And talked about our budding plans
And we smiled
Our faces like a mirror showing us our secret sides
But then the fights, the sharp words splintering the night
How I couldn’t be what you’d need
But oh how I could make you bleed
When I used to work at Microsoft I had an uncanny knack for making installs not work. Things that just simply worked for other people would die with errors and bluescreens. I started to think I emitted a weird bioelectric field or something. But this only happened at that company, and strangely only when I worked on the premises.
I don’t know if it’s been studied, but anecdotally, I’ve known a few such “bug attractors.” As a software engineer, I am blessed that I know people that will turn my work into ashes in a matter of mere seconds - it’s amazing.
If you really do have a knack for making computer software fail, a viable career in QA awaits you.
lol, as if anyone pays for QA anymore.
Strangely my knack seemed limited to making installs fail. I actually wrote some test automation software, including a language for specifying tests.
Ages ago in my help desk days, we had a remote user brick at least 3 laptops and 3 PocketPCs. They were fully dead, would not power on with different batteries/chargers. She used different outlets each time both in her house and at coffee shops. She left the company shortly after and I got promoted out of the role so I never figured out what happened.
I’m tellin’ ya. It’s a gift.
Sounds like a superpower to me. You haven’t been around GitHub lately, have you? :)
Nah haven’t worked there since 2005.
It is a gift! I have the same gift for printers. I enter a room with a printer and the printer decides to spontaneously combust (or at least the software equivalent of this). Weird aura? Maybe they feel my hate…
That reminds me of a job I had many years ago, where this big printer kept jamming and stopping. Whenever the inhouse support tech showed up it would start working. One time it unjammed and resumed printing when he walked into the computer room. Another time he was out front talking to the manager right after getting there, and we heard it start up. He could never get there when it wasn’t working, to diagnose the problem. So finally he brought in a wallet size high-school photo of himself and taped it to the inside of the printer cover, so his face was looking at the print head. I swear on everything holy, that machine never glitched out again!
Creative problem solving! Printers are really wild.
I tried to get on the Window Manager hype train — I know it is productive and shit and much more efficient than traditional desktops — but dropped it because it just needs to be configured endlessly and yet I still end up using the mouse when I am just laid back on my chair eating a banana. Installed KDE Plasma and stuck with it ever since. Everything doesn’t need to be text files and command line. A bit of user friendly GUI in life doesn’t hurt.
No shame in that. I love sway/i3 because it force me to keep my screen tidy, but you are right that it takes time to get a decent config file.
Not everything has to be a poweruser wet dream and most Linux distro allows you to do 95% of the stuff you need through the GUI, so more power to you to customize your experience.
That would be true if the GUI worked correctly.
However, more often than not, some inner thing breaks, which means that the GUI just throws an error screen and tells you “good luck”. So you have to search for that text in Google, and it will send you to an obscure forum where a guy said in 2014 that the solution for that problem is to run some random command in the terminal.
For example the “app store” GUI for Kubuntu never worked for me. It always stalls at some point or another. Meanwhile, running
sudo apt upgradeworked flawlessly. Both operations should be doing the exact same thing under the hood.Two times already, a relative that uses Manjaro but has no idea about Linux came to me for help because the “app store GUI” (which is a different one than in KDE) one day stopped working. The issue was to run some random key-relayed command.
Years later, I found out that apparently the Manjaro maintainers let their certificates expire MORE THAN ONCE. Which has to be fixed manually by the end user apparently. And they apparently didn’t think of adding a notification in the GUI telling you about this. Which is bonkers. Not everyone reads all the news articles relating to their OS.
That would be true if the GUI worked correctly.
The GUI works correctly for the vast majority of the time.
And MacOS and Windows also have GUI bugs, but we are so used to using these OSes that we know the workarounds.
The difference with Linux is that depending on your desktop environment, you will have to learn a new workflow. On Windows and MacOS, you one desktop environment and that’s it.
However, more often than not, some inner thing breaks, which means that the GUI just throws an error screen and tells you “good luck”. So you have to search for that text in Google, and it will send you to an obscure forum where a guy said in 2014 that the solution for that problem is to run some random command in the terminal.
Happens with Windows too where you get an error code and then you have to registry entries to fix a bug. Again, same kind of issues with a different workflow.
For example the “app store” GUI for Kubuntu never worked for me. It always stalls at some point or another. Meanwhile, running
sudo apt upgradeworked flawlessly. Both operations should be doing the exact same thing under the hoodI’ve had lots of issues with Windows store where a software wouldn’t install correctly and I had no way to install what I needed to. At least, with Linux, you have multiple way to install a software. The app store is just a GUI over the package manager.
Two times already, a relative that uses Manjaro but has no idea about Linux came to me for help because the “app store GUI” (which is a different one than in KDE) one day stopped working. The issue was to run some random key-relayed command.
I do the IT for work (small company, 4 employees) and the number of time I had to un-break something in Windows for no apparent reason is high. Bugs happen in any OS. Linux is no different.
Years later, I found out that apparently the Manjaro maintainers let their certificates expire MORE THAN ONCE. Which has to be fixed manually by the end user apparently. And they apparently didn’t think of adding a notification in the GUI telling you about this. Which is bonkers. Not everyone reads all the news articles relating to their OS.
That’s dumb and I agree with you, but that’s not a Linux issue though, that’s a Manjaro maintainers issue.
Most issues are a maintainers issue. Rarely is the issue in Linux itself. Most of the issues are in userland.
Yes. All OS have bugs, and yes, we are used to doing workarounds for windows too. But most of the time, that workaround is fishing for a setting in an obscure menu with a Windows7 UI. But it is still a GUI. If you read the labels of the buttons you can navigate the menus to reach the button you want to press.
I have never ever had to edit the registry to fix an issue. I have maybe edited the registry 10 times in my whole life, most of the time it was to customize beyond what the GUI offers, not to fix a bug. That’s on my PC, I don’t work in IT for a company. Maybe company management requires more extensive use of the registry.
The whole point of my comment is not that Linux breaks constantly while windows doesn’t. Of course it’s going to break more often, since there is an uncountable different Linux configurations, it’s incredibly more complex than having 2-3 versions of windows to maintain.
The point is that you can fix most issues on windows with the GUI, while on Linux you have to use the terminal most of the times.
We also know those windows workarounds because GUIs are way more discoverable than terminal commands.
GUIs act like trees. If you don’t care about the “personalization” branch of the menus, you just don’t click on it.
Terminals act like lists. You do
ls /usr/binyou’ll just get shown hundreds of binaries. Which are not categorized in any way. Only when you know which binary solves your issue you can read the man and get something that hopefully resembles a tree, with headings of different levels.I have never ever had to edit the registry to fix an issue. I have maybe edited the registry 10 times in my whole life, most of the time it was to customize beyond what the GUI offers, not to fix a bug. That’s on my PC, I don’t work in IT for a company. Maybe company management requires more extensive use of the registry.
I have edited the registry a lot when I last used Windows when I used it last a few years ago, and even had to do it for the other employees while maintaining their PC.
The whole point of my comment is not that Linux breaks constantly while windows doesn’t. Of course it’s going to break more often, since there is an uncountable different Linux configurations, it’s incredibly more complex than having 2-3 versions of windows to maintain.
The point is that you can fix most issues on windows with the GUI, while on Linux you have to use the terminal most of the times.
And you can do the same with the GUI on Linux. However, since the GUI is mostly just a wrapper around Linux CLI cmds, it’s a lot faster to fix issues from the terminal.
Linux was used mostly by power users a few years ago, and they tend to use the CLI a lot more. Thus the knowledge they have and share is the one they know, the CLI. Hell, when I have to use Windows, I will use thr CLI unless I absolutely have to use the GUI.
And that’s the knowledge that is usually shared because regardless of which distro/desktop environment you use, the CLI is consistent across the distro.
But Linux has come a long way and many issues can be corrected through the GUI
Gentoo Linux user here. Sometimes when I open my laptop’s lid, the hard drive disconnects
you get that feature for free?
It comes with the price of tons of compile time for everything
