• Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 天前

    Too expensive for 16gb ram and sadly I don’t think it’s fully the pi’s fault. It just uses one of the most in demand chips right now

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      7 天前

      My first Pi was a Zero. It came free with a PC magazine. It was taped to the cover. I think the retail price then was something like $5

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        Pi Zeros sell nowadays for 13 EUR. I don’t know when you got yours but it might be just regular inflation since then.

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          This was when they were first released. The intention was to make computing available to nearly everyone, regardless of income level, and this was a way to demonstrate how it was possible. By literally giving it away. As for the Pi itself, retail was $35.

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            And the Zeros are still affordable for everyone and perfectly enough for most tinker jobs. Retail for a Pi 4B 1GB is still 39 EUR. If you need more power than a zero or even zero 2 can deliver.

            Not the Pi got ridiculously more expensive. RAM did. As Mini PC replacement of course, the Pi was priced out of competition.

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    7 天前

    Ouch. I was hesitant at $160. This is just a no. I’ll buy one if prices ever become sane again.

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      Man I’d love a re PC here. That’d be heaven for me. My house basically is a re PC already tho lol. I love useless computers.

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    I don’t understand the hate towards the makers of the Pi. Obviously they didn’t raise the price because they’re greedy.

    Fuck Apple, but one thing you need to give them credit for is that over years they didn’t raise their prices once, they even lowered them for the iPhone at one point. And even they needed to raise the prices.

    Blame the memory manufacturers for creating a fake shortage because they don’t want to ramp up their production capabilities because they like the high demand.

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      7 天前

      Apple already sells overpriced devices and other manufacturers are doing the same, this time, in the name of inflation and memory shortages.

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        7 天前

        It’s not 2011 anymore, Apple absolutely dominates the price/quality range. They sell premium devices, and while others sell their premium devices at times at much higher prices, they still don’t even come remotely close.

        For example I am constantly on the lookout for a different laptop that provides the features and performance for that price and I always come to the conclusion that there still isn’t. I’ve got a beefy ThinkPad at work (and it’s a really good laptop to) but in terms of real world performance it doesn’t even come close to my baseline M1 MacBook that is over 6 years old.

        Apple products are now again overpriced but that’s because of memory.

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      7 天前

      I’m not sure that Apple is a good example to use here. They just announced their new MacBook - starting at $3,000. Their new cell phone starts at $2,000.

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        Yes because they raised their prices after not raising them for years and at times even lowering them. I literally explained this. Just a few months ago when the prices weren’t as high they released an entry level MacBook that is more powerful than a baseline M1 at $500. They also released an M1 Mac Mini for $500 that was so good it was sold out constantly because it was by far the cheapest option for decent AI usage.

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                That’s not the base model but fine, it starts at $1999, not 3 grand

                Again people dont even check the website before spreading apple hate

                Sure they make a fancier model that is 3 grand, but lots of companies have premium options. Why is that a bad thing?

                You can easily blow 3+ grand on a dell or lenovo too

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      You want to bring Apple in this? Apple, with the devices that are three-four times as expensive as they should have to be, built with sub-par quality components, because of course, whilst going so far as to adding crypto keys to their hardware to ensure you can’t repair it?

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        I’m confused where you got that opinion from. You possibly cannot have any experience with Apple products if you seriously believe they’re of poor quality. You won’t be able to find any laptop that meets any MacBook performance and feature wise at that price.

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      6 天前

      The 16gb rpi5 isnt something that makes me “hate” them, but it sure does make me question what could be going through their minds. Theres hardly any good use case at that price that isnt way bettee served elsewhere.

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    Yeeeeee eah, I priced one out a couple weeks ago from my preferred, local supplier and immediately left the site. It’s a shame because I have some Pi3b and a 4 that I’d love to retire. Still functional, but pokey.

    I’m betting tied of being priced-out of everything

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    7 天前

    I get how parts prices and everything else got more expensive… but that’s just insane. Most I’ve ever paid for a Pi was 40 euros for a model 3. They’ve gotten way too expensive since then. The WHOLE IDEA behind them was cheap and cheerful computing. Did a lot of cool projects with them that just aren’t worth it with expensive hardware.

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    7 天前

    Everyone here talking about raspberry pi and I still to this day have no idea what I can do with one.

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      It’s just a computer. You can do whatever you need a computer for. Browse Lemmy on it. Play video games on it. Use it as a server. Make it run an ad video on the TV in your store window.

      Whatever you need a PC for. If you don’t need a PC for something, you don’t need a Raspberry Pi.

      The entire point of the Raspberry Pi was that it was a very very cheap PC, and it’s no longer cheap, so nowadays there is definitely less reason to buy one.

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        That is just one of the possible uses and not the most important one. Pi’s have two things that regular PCs don’t have. They have a direct integration of an GPIO port where you can easily connect individual wires as needed and they have a huge community and a lot of tutorials and also software support for all kinds of tinker jobs that can make use of that GPIO port.

        These two reasons have not gone away and for many of those, you don’t need the most expensive PI with 16GB of RAM. A Pi Zero for 14 EUR or a Pi Zero 2 for 22 EUR are perfectly fine for that. The platform has plenty of life left but those high end Pi are increasingly crazily priced, mainly because of insane RAM prices.

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        It’s also a very small and low powered computer. That’s valuable in some cases.

        And most of them have a GPIO (general-purpose input/output) header for whatever shenanigans people might be up to.

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      7 天前

      I have one setup as an ad blocker (pihole)

      I was going to make a bookshelf with one to control the lights.

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      I use them to run Kodi for streaming media to my TV from my file server. I also would like to run retropie but I can’t figure out how to get the scaling to work on my TV.

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      Okay that’s good to know. Honestly I always considered a Pi a single use, light weight device that just happens to run common ARM64. When they went for 8/16GB of RAM it felt like they were trying to turn them into mini general purpose computers.

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        And they do work like great general purpose computers. They have no moving parts, no fan and linux. So they are robust as fuck. Get the one that is coming in its own keyboard and you have everything you need.

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        8 天前

        I have two running several containers each, and another running a full Linux distro with desktop and browser for a family chrome board.

        If they have a little RAM they do great.

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            I wouldn’t pay the current top-end price for a Pi. A mini is a better value now, for sure.

            Just sharing that the “general purpose” use isn’t a stretch or unreasonable.

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              It probably depends what you have running on it. Mine is basically just a Plex server. I never checked power usage.

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      I bought a 16G for a project shortly after they came out on sale at Microcenter. It’s sitting in a closet right now, and it makes me feel bad that it’s not in use. I have Pi3Bs deployed everywhere, but no need for this monstrosity. Today.

    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      That’s kind of expensive, I bought mine for around 25-35€… (Only one with a case).

      Now, my thinkcentre usff, they sometimes cost 40 to 80€…

      300+? Madness.