• Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    My friend it was never about NATO. There is no prospective out there based in fact where NATO has anything to do with it.

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        9 months ago

        By “the Guardian” here what you mean is “an opinion piece from the fucking Cato Institute”

        It was an excellent question, and neither the Clinton administration nor its successors provided even a remotely convincing answer.

        The answers are South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Transnistria

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      9 months ago

      Russia said since 2014 this was about NATO. Even before they protested strongly the NATO expansion. So how can it not be about NATO? You’re either completely uninformed or lying.

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        9 months ago

        and US fascists say banning trans people is about protecting children. only a fool believes the narrative of a fascist

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          9 months ago

          Well if you insist on not taking Russia seriously - then you must be very pleased with the result. Maybe you should call Putin a Hitler a few more times, that will solve everything :D

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        9 months ago

        You have the media literacy of a fly. Not even Russia supporters believe this is about NATO.

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          9 months ago

          Uh… yes, we do? I mean not only about NATO, but definitely also about NATO. Even liberals like Jeffrey Sachs and radlibs like Noam Chomsky and undead ghouls like Henry Kissinger agree.

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            9 months ago

            It’s an element but anyone saying the war was started because of NATO is clearly bullshitting. Now if you were to ask why the war is still going on despite both sides wanting peace, NATO is a pretty succinct and accurate explanation.

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          9 months ago

          I’m a Lemmygrad Andy, if there’s any tankie in this conversation, it’s me. Person’s on ee they’re probably only parroting outdated propaganda because they’re a neo-reactionary, (or an outright fascist) not because they’re communist.

          Putin’s agenda of steering the American right into self-destruction to neutralize their geopolitical opponent is going to result in a lot of lot of neo-fascists hitting themselves out of confusion, so keep your eyes open for that.