It’s probably cocaine
Cokeium
cokaina… todays topic, slavery
Hyping up the stock price.
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We already have that abundance. It’s just waiting to be liberated.
It’s grifting, pure and simple. All those things may be possible but Sam Altman is spewing this line of bullshit to keep the venture capital flowing into his company.
Exactly. As a SW engineer, I don’t know how far we are from an AGI exactly, but I am confident enough Altman and openAi have no idea where to even start.
As a SW engineer
I read that and immediately thought of you working in a Star Wars hangar, fixing rebel ships
That sounds like the general consensus from most SW engineers.
As a software engineer that works in AI, the “breakthrough” we’ve made is in proving that LLM’s can perform well at scale, and that hallucinations aren’t as big a problem as initially thought. Most tech companies didn’t do what OpenAI did because hallucinations are brand-damaging, whereas OpenAI didn’t give a fuck. In the next few years, all existing AI systems will be through LLM’s, and probably as good at ChatGPT.
We might make more progress now that researchers and academics see the value in LLM’s, but my weakly held opinion is that it’s mostly surrounded by hype.
We’re nowhere near what most would call AGI, although to be blunt, I don’t think the average person on here could truly tell you what that looks like without disagreeing with AI researchers.
and probably as good at ChatGPT
We are so fucked.
In Venice he never claims that he will be the one to do these things, at least in that tweet he doesn’t claim to be the one that’s going to do those things.
I’m not sure what the line about creating new realities means. I assume he means VR and not that AI is going to give us the ability to access hyperspace or something.
The current state of capitalism will ensure the second line never sees the light of day
deregulated capitalism is a curse on society
Said looking at one regulated to almost mercantilist levels.
Are you stupid?
I don’t think so.
What, it seems stupid to you that monopolies created using copyright and patent laws designed to benefit domestic companies I call mercantilism? Bailing out companies “too big to fail” is regulation too. Health in USA is so expensive because it’s regulated to work this way.
There are plenty of regulations, just not those you’d want, too bad.
We can already create enough abondance that no human starves, sleep outside or can’t affotd medical treatment. Still look at the world.
Why bother to let humans live if they are not profitable enough for the megacorps? That almost sounds like work.
No no, they’re desperately looking for that, because gating infinite abundance away from the plebs will be amazing for quarterly profits and entertainment! Think of all the reality shows you can make by pitting the poor against themselves!
Abundance is already here, tons of food are destroyed and thrown out when they accidentally make too much while people are starving, there’s no money in abundance, it’s the artificial lack of supply that keeps prices high and profits soaring.
Food isn’t the only resource in the equation. Most of the resources are limited and even diminishing.
I agree but I think their point was more along the lines of “Even if we have complete abundance of everything (as in, the capabilities to produce anything in abundance), capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply to continue profiting off of the workers. For example, look at the food abundance we have”
capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply
I think it’s not that, but just:
capitalists won’t spend their money to create logistical chains for free.
“Collect and distribute supply” won’t do itself, someone should do that. And noone will do that for free
Have you read Ishmael?
Approximately 1/3 of all food produced is wasted.
The first paragraph? Can’t say I disagree.
Second paragraph? Delusional. Or actively deceitful. Given Altman’s background, I’m leaning toward the second.
We already have abundance at scale; the rest is just greed and logistics
It’s enough to look at how much stuff is available in a supermarket, or in the average, home, to know we live in an age of abundance. The problem is, is that abundance is not shared, but hoarded.
We have enough food to feed the world, we have enough production for everyone in the world to have a smartphone and internet access and electricity. We can make clothes for everyone, we can home everyone. We have enough healthcare for everyone.
By an objective measure, we have abundance, we have enough. The world is just severely mismanaging our resources and the distribution of them. Because the economy doesn’t work for humans, instead humans work for the economy.
Cure all human disease?
Paragraphs are bodies of text. So the second paragraph in this scenario is the one where we are only a few breakthroughs away.
Words are a series of letters.
He agrees that we can cure all human disease? That’s silly.
It’s just bait for investors. This is the kind of crap that gets people with money and zero understanding of computers to buy stocks.
It’s true—for a very exclusive interpretation of “we”.
We’ll have all that, and escalating poverty at scales that are difficult to imagine…
The thing that keeps us from living lives of abundance is not a lack of technology.
An issue with this tweet is that we already have the capacity to do a lot. We have the technology to provide healthy and diverse diets for the entire planet and fit a cities worth of farming inside a few city blocks (vertical hydroponics/aeroponics). We have the ability to create electricity in a dozen different renewable ways. We have the ability to desalinate water creating nearly infinite fresh water, we have enough square footage in the world to easily house everyone. We have stellar education systems that we could hand out to the entire world.
Why don’t we do it? Well, all these things cost money. But the issue is, there also exists staggering amounts of money across the world. The panama papers revealed just a fraction of the wealth being hoarded by just a fraction of the wealthiest people in the world (and most implicated in the panema papers weren’t even too crazy, like soccer stars and business owners). There’s exists tens to hundreds of trillions of dollars of wealth created by the world just floating around in billionaires bank accounts and in the coffers of world powers.
So it’s not an issue of abundance coming in the near future, we have it here on earth right now.
exactly.
many of the mundane atrocities being committed every day are deliberate choices in service of capital rather than people.
you know, health insurance companies, etc.
I feel like AGI might be the furthest away of all those things.
Well, I am convinced we currently have no idea how an AGI could be made. It shouldn’t be a HW issue since it is possible to have a human brain worth of computing power in a small cluster. So it could be near impossible or we may be one great shower thought away, there is no way to know.
If we means the human race, it’s absolutely true. There’s just no mention of a timeline.
These people are frauds.
This reads like Musk promising everyone that his imaginary train will be faster and cheaper than everything else.
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Marketing…
Every rich tech bro has convince themselves they are the savior of the world.
