Why is a non-European country in the contest at all?
It’s a joke…
Votes were always political BS, they ban a bunch of very legitimate things like the pride flag and Palestine flag, yet they don’t mind having a country in the process of committing genocide in it.
Look, the 7.10 was terrible, Israel had every right to fight back. But genocide is genocide and it is not self defense.
Fuck Hamas, fuck Israel and fuck the Eurovision.
I hope my country stops participating in Eurovision. There’s no saving it.
A lot of fascists in each country voting in unison for Israel while non-fascists votes got split up between all the other participants.
Israel shouldn’t be allowed to participate in the first place.
They should have been thrown out once it got clear that their response to October 7 turned into a genocide.
They’re not in Europe, so they should have never been eligible to participate.
This is not the reason why they should be out. They are a part of the EBU and therefore eligible.
The war and genocide is a clear violation though and got Russia kicked pretty fast when they invaded Ukraine
They should be thrown out of EBU and any other European association a long time ago.
Well akshually you only need to be within the European Broadcasting Area to participate; Middle Eastern countries other than Israel just don’t.
Then how does Australia get a pass?
They’re a long time affiliate member of the EBU and big Eurovision fans, they were invited for the 60th Eurovision (IIRC) to mark the event and they’ve just stuck around.
And I am really glad they did. They often brought some cool stuff on the stage.
This, it would be interesting to extend this special status and have a different guest country every year.
Meh, same goes for Australia, but I see your point.
Ban Russia from everything, but obviously Israel is a “special case” where the rules of humanity has been suspended so they may do unto others, what was done to them.
Was Elon Musk and/or Starlink involved?
If Eurovision is non-political, invite Russia back to participate.
No fucking chance. The hypocrisy is astounding. Butchering innocent people is okay when the perpetrator is friendly to the west.
Well, 11 out of 37 total Eurovision participants are under threat of direct russian attack in the future, two of which already attacked and under occupation i.e. Georgia and Ukraine, so you’d ignore that at your own risk. Most eurovision countries have greater (urgent) self-interest in grounding russia before doing the same with israel, but I wouldn’t say it is impossible, especially as genocide bibi starts to blame everyone for every stupid thing he does and diplomatic relations deteriorate.
That’s right, you’re making a point. Now, though, people in the comments will explain to you why you’re wrong…
It’s technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control. The russian broadcasters were not kicked out for the russian invasion of Ukraine, but for being state controlled. They were accused of this for a long time and the invasion was the final straw.
It’s technically not countries participating, but broadcasters and they need to be independent of state control
So…same problem as the geography question then. How the fuck does Australia participate? As best I can tell, it’s broadcast here on SBS, a state-owned broadcaster.
The person you replied to said that the needed to be independent of state control, not that they couldn’t be state owned.
I don’t know about SBS but it is broadcast on BBC One in the UK which is also state owned but is not directly controlled by the state.
I think there’s a difference between state-owned and state-funded.
MoroccanOil is main sponsor of Eurovision, and it is Israeli company.
It’s all about he money, babyy
How much money an obscure cosmetics company (never heard before today, from the name I assumed it was something like Saudi Aramco) is paying that they can’t find another sponsor that pays the same or even more?
They have $750M revenue, definitely they can spend tens of millions in advertising .
Edit: tried to also get some info how much money EBU (owner of Eurovision) does. Seems that they don’t make them public any more, which is bit sus. 2021 was last that I found and they made around $400M, and “other revenue” were I assume advertisement deals are was $50M.
I wouldn’t call them obscure. Their hair products are very well known. Hoping they aren’t as popular anymore, but I don’t have that kind of trust in people…
Lol, just now? Eurovision has been political charade the entire fucking time. It’s not “best artist wins” it’s friend countries voting for eachother.
When countries vote for their neighbour, that is usually not enough to change the end result. The most popular song usually still wins. But Israel is assembling political votes all across Europe. Only a few percent of the voters need to be rallied to completely overtake the public votes. Also considering that Israel supporters are motivated to vote 20 times, people voting for their favorite song will likely only vote a few times, if at all.
Yes, Eurovision has always been political to some degree, but it hasn’t really swayed the results this much ever before.
Being a popularity contest is not a problem. It’s always been like that, it’s “whatever”. Like it, don’t like. Doesn’t matter.
But Israel manipulating votes to “artwash” genocide is a whole different bag of cats, and very wrong.
Agreed. It’s disgusting.
Its gotten worse for every year
Bye losers, some/most of the israelis citizens don’t even stand up against genocide by their own leader, **** off then
The reason we don’t have a Western Hemisphere version is because it would be too much to watch everyone wash Drake in Spanish, French, Navajo, Portuguese, various indigenous languages, etc. Give that man some time to reconsider his decisions. Imagine getting roasted by one of the last speakers of an endangered Mayan dialect. That’s too much. And DJ Mustard has a busy schedule. He can’t make beats for every culture.
