Longest two weeks ever.
So, everyone gets a jar of health insurance money, but the insurers you buy from know how much is in the personal jar and one is expected to negotiate? … how is this beneficial for the customers?
That’s the neat part.
It’s ok because your preexisting conditions not being covered will mean you don’t really have much incentive to actually buy it
I get a $10 incentive card every year I don’t break a bone. It’s basically the same as insurance.
Oh that’s really fucking dumb. Like so dumb it feels like it was suggested by an accelerationist whose end goal is m4a.
This is on brand for someone throwing a Great Gatsby party while fighting legal battles to ensure people on food stamps are starving.
In his head they’re just winning on top of winning. “Look at all the profits for me and my friends!”
The lack of awareness is breathtaking, I agree.
I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance.
I… uh… what? So is he saying that people will get a cash balance from the government to use exclusively on Healthcare, kind of like HSA/FSA, and can use it to pay their private insurance premiums? Like a universal basic income but just for Healthcare? Or only some people, like those without employer insurance, are getting money? Why is this better in any way, like even playing devils advocate, I can’t come up with a good reason for it.
and yeah, if you have this balance, and can ONLY spend it on health insurance… okay, the basic plan costs exactly as much as the government gives everyone. There’s no advantage in spending less since you can’t use it for anything else.
Troomp is stupid enough to not see how idiotic that is, but other people in his criminal cabinet are not.
I guarantee this would turn health insurance into car insurance, where your own personal history directly affects your rates. If you have had cancer or a family history of cancer you’re getting priced out of the market, without a doubt.
…Which is what we used to have. And it sucked.
It’s like people don’t remember how bad shit was pre-Obamacare.
People dont remember that Trump was president on January 6th. They’re fucking stupid
Look I just want to know what Obama was doing during 9/11. Why didnt he prevent the attack
Don’t forget to check their credit, no deadbeats need apply!
I froze my Equifax credit after that bullshit in 2017. If anyone tries to check that, it ain’t gonna fly. Never unfreezing them.
And an up-to-date photo for AI to analyze your chances of falling and breaking your hip.
Every “entrepreneur” I know does not have good credit.
“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump said during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.
So his idea for healthcare is… you use money to buy health insurance on the public market?
He’s a fucking genius!
I have to apologize for all the things I’ve said about Trump over the year. America, you are in good hands.
… Instead of money going to insurance companies, it goes into a fund, where people can buy insurance using it… from insurance companies? So the money instead of going to insurance companies goes to… Insurance companies.
Thats just it, its ANOTHER middle man
See. It’s fucking genius.
No wonder he’s the king.
It’ll go into an interest yielding account until it’s ready to be used and any interest accrued will go to Trump.
I think by “buy their own health insurance,” he means they can get their own health coverage. Basically, a health savings account like they have existed for decades.
I look forward to the day when people start calling around ten different ambulance companies to negotiate the best price to get them to the hospital, after calling ten hospitals to find out which one has the best deals. Maybe 911 can add an ad-supported service for that? “We have a special for shooting victims tonight!”
“Are y’all shooting people, or helping people who have been shot? Because this past Easter…”
They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs
Just what I want - to have to expend a bunch of time and expertise that I don’t have to try to buy healthcare.
They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance
Perfect, that’s my specialty! I love reading tons of insurance policy details written in confusing legal jargon. The American people are going to thrive with this and for sure beat the big bad DEMORCAT RUN insurance companies.
I was stressing out just trying to read my fucking work benefit options last week…
Let me see if I can run down a hypothetical.
Me: Hey, I can’t afford this insurance!
Insurer: Don’t want it? Don’t buy it!
I don’t want to feel like a FUCKING entrepreneur I want to feel healthy without having to negotiate my health with a company that doesn’t give a fuck about anything but my money
When it comes to healthcare I want to feel like a European not an entrepreneur. I hate negotiating and I’m bad at it. But even if not I don’t have leverage. And it’s not like they’ll let you negotiate, they’ll say “80% of your paycheck, take it or leave it”
Massachusetts has had for a while a subsidy on new heat pump installations, which sounds great! We looked into getting one. Heat pumps in MA cost considerably more than in the rest of the country, because installers have largely increased what they charge to capture that subsidy for themselves as extra profit.
I predict the same effect here, with private insurance.
That pretty much happens every time any government tries to introduce an “economy kickstart benefit”.
See for example, Hungary. The government introduced “CSOK” a few years back, which was basically a “start your family” free money kit - if you marry and have X kids within Y years of taking part in this program, you get to keep the money for free, no need to pay it back, otherwise it turns into a loan (with sub-market rates mind you so it’s worth taking even if you don’t want kids).
The amount per family was fixed, at IIRC 20 million HUF, or around $60k USD.
Guess what happened?
Property prices shot up, practically overnight, by that amount.
Yeah, I had a quote for a system just before the subsidy increase, and then a few years later, got another quote, and after accounting for inflation, it went up by quite a bit more than the increase.
On the other hand though, while it’s not quite savings passed on to the consumer, it is encouraging the installers to prioritize that technology over other less efficient alternatives. So I suppose it depends on what the end goal is.
That part is true.
If you have an installer selling heat pumps and regular heaters, they’re gonna be much more incentivized to recommend you a heat pump if they get an extra, say, $1,000 in subsidies off marking it up compared to a regular heating system.
But without price controls or very strong competition, it won’t end up actually making things cheaper for consumers.
Isn’t there this type of plan already? Isn’t this an HSA?
Yep.
His genius plan is an HSA but your regular insurance subsidy money goes in there too and you can somehow negotiate healthcare prices yourself better than an insurance company can in a system designed to benefit insurers.
OK, but now, what if instead of everyone using that money to buy insurance the government just bought the insurance for everyone. And then what if instead of paying an insurance company to pay healthcare expenses the government just directly paid those healthcare expenses. It would be so much simpler with a lot fewer middlemen involved.
The only problem is when the GOP shuts the government down again and they stop making any payments for any of it
Not that private sector insurance is good but I don’t think I want Congress in charge of my healthcare either, so they can take it away from scary brown people and create the “death panels” they’ve always dreamt of
When they write the law for single payer they can write that it is automatically funded like all of the other things that are automatically funded. The only optional things that shut down when congress can’t pass an appropriations bill are things like feeding starving children.
Why don’t we rename Obamacare or ACA to Trumpcare and he will praise and fund it. I think he just doesn’t like that Obama gets credit for the ACA.
If we passed single payer healthcare comparable to first world countries I would accept it being called Trump Care.
Same, I don’t give a fuck what we have to call it. This current system is beyond broken, if we need to stroke the ego of the childish narcissist so be it.
Make a single payer system and call it Trumpcare. I’d be ok with that since I don’t give a shit what it’s called.
I’d be ok with that
Health Insurance companies wouldn’t :\
Me neither.
We could save time and just put the money in a fund to pay for bankruptcy legal expenses.
This just sees like a tweet.
That’s how governing works now, at least when the asshole Confederates are running things.
