The president is attempting to keep calm in front of the cameras, but behind the scenes he’s fuming.

Donald Trump is reportedly getting more and more fed up with his administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein drama that has consumed headlines for weeks.

Trump is frustrated that the scandal has overshadowed his agenda and dominated the news, two people familiar with his thinking told The Washington Post in a Sunday report.

Nearly a dozen sources close to the situation spoke to the Post about the issue, painting a picture of an administration adrift, lacking a clear strategy and blindsided by the intensity of the backlash—particularly from Trump’s own base. Many officials had reportedly hoped that Americans would move on from the unreleased Epstein files, underestimating the sustained outrage.

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    it was so avoidable, all he had to do is not rape children.

    it isn’t so hard, I never raped children and I aint even trying to avoid it. it’s crazy how easy it is not to rape children.

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      Trump is the kind of person who doesn’t take responsibility for his actions. I don’t think it occurs to that sort of person that they could just not do the bad thing. They think they’re a victim when punished for doing a bad thing. The idea of just not doing the bad thing never registers as an option.

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      I’ve coincidentally also never raped children, but seeing a child rapist become so incredibly successful, why wouldn’t these MAGA retards start raping children? Maybe that’s why they’re not billionaires, because they don’t rape children. It raises some interesting questions.

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        i mean there’s some correlation. not every child rapist becomes a billionaire, but if you’re a billionaire chances are pretty high that you’re a child rapist because good people don’t become billionaires. the amount of lying, cheating, stealing and exploiting you need to do to become so rich that millionaires are poor by comparison, does make it likely that you’re the kind of person who would rape a child.

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    Just make every question about the files.

    Trump: We just passed another bill that’ll be great for America.

    Press: And how does that bill affect the Epstein files?

    Trump: There was a mass shooter in New York.

    Press: Do the Epstein files contain info about Epstein talking about mass shootings?

    Trump: I’m flying to Russia to suck Putin’s dick.

    Press: Do the Epstein files indicate that he sucked Putin’s dick with you?

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      I won’t hold my breath.

      The best we can hope for is the stress will take its toll on the morbidly obese 79-year-old with circulation problems and bruised skin.

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    At this point I doubt MAGA crowd will draw the line at paedophilia. The only thing consistent in their belief is idol worship.

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        TBH it’s kind of fucked up that it’s taken this long for them to get riled up and for the media to really dig into this. I suspect some prominent republicans and donors are trying to engineer this as a means of replacing trump. I mean, we’ve known for a while now about Epstein’s crimes. We’ve known about the girls who were trafficked, and for some time authorities have had the list of names. Obviously anyone who committed crimes against children should be prosecuted regardless of their political affiliation. This seems to be being used as a weapon against trump - fine, the fucker has it coming. It’s still political skulduggery tho.

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    painting a picture of an administration adrift, lacking a clear strategy and blindsided by the intensity of the backlash

    I read this same thing - almost word for word - at least a dozen times in Trumpworld I. It all still ended up with a coup attempt, corporate news still at the service of republiQans, and half the voters still complete fucking morons.

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    A person guilty of a crime is in rage mode because people wanting to convict that person won’t let it go.

    Just get rid of the judiciary system them, right? Pedophilia is ok now apparently, so are the rest of Trump his crimes. There should be a new law that says being rich exempts you from the law and being poor and being non-white is a crime. Oh wait, that’s what diaper Donny is already working towards. Fucking dystopia we live in. Supporting genocide and apartheid, breaking down the judiciary system, creating an even bigger gap in wealth and power enslaving the general public.

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      being rich exempts you from the law and being poor and being non-white is a crime. Oh wait, that’s what diaper Donny is already working towards. Fucking dystopia we live in. Supporting genocide and apartheid, breaking down the judiciary system, creating an even bigger gap in wealth and power enslaving the general public.

      With the possible exception of the judiciary system, literally all of that has been true for a long time now.

      Even in cases where the rich can’t just pay someone off (rare), In the cases where the rich are actually charged (also rare) if the ‘punishment’ is a fine, it’s not really going to inconvenience a rich person. Typically the types of crime the wealthy get away with (Wage Theft, Corporate malfeasance etc) are punished by fines. This is by design.

      There are numerous ways the being poor is criminalized, perhaps the worst example are ‘vagrancy’ laws, where being poor and/or unemployed is literally a crime.

      “Non-White” people (with the exception of Asian people) are incarcerated at a much higher rate than white people.

      Trump supports genocide, Harris supported genocide, Biden supported genocide, Hillary supported genocide, Obama, Bush Jr, Bill Clinton, Bush Sr, Regan…

      The wealth gap has been widening since before I was born, and I’m 51 years old.

      We never got rid of slavery. The 13th didn’t eliminate slavery. I would even count Wage Slavery as a type of slavery.

      Trump isn’t some radical departure from ‘American’ values. Trump is American values turned up to 11.

      I would like to think that the Trump administration will wake people up to the fact that the vision of America we were fed as children is a lie. We NEVER treated all people as if they were created equal. As long as Capitalism rules the day the Rich will always be the ruling class. There will always be different rules for them. The workers will always be exploited to make them rich.

      The truth is so many people refuse to question the propaganda, that it will take a miracle to wake people up. So many people think if only we had elected the right people things would be different. It’s not who we elect, it’s the whole damn system that needs to change.

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      Wouldn’t that be great? Though I don’t think Vance would be any better.

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        Though I don’t think Vance would be any better.

        This comes up a lot, and yes Vance has far, far darker connections being funded by Peter Thiel and his cohorts of the apocalypse…

        But I need to always remind everyone, Vance doesn’t have the wealth to be remotely as impactful as Trump has been, and I don’t mean monetary.

        Trump gets away with murder and rape and pillaging our treasury because he has political capital, he has very real power in the form of a comparatively small but passionate following who are ride-or-die with Trump to the end of life itself, and the suckerfish and bottom-feeders who follow this contingent around, the pundits and loyalist cults of personality who are all feeding from this rolling snowball of stupidity, narcissism and hate.

        Vance has none of that. He is not going to be able to push bills through congress and senate. He is not going to be able to influence judges or secure the loyalty of people hoping to get pardoned for whatever crimes they’re trying to get away with. He will not be able to hold his own against people like Newsom or even pushy reporters. He will be a few years of lame-duckerism while the rest of the stooges clear out as much cash as they can from taxpayers, finishing as much of Trump’s raid as they can. Yes, he will probably write some really sinister executive orders, give huge favors to tech companies and the like, but the overall momentum of this weird fucking social phenomenon that is MAGA will be truly over. There is nobody else who can inspire the hate and brainless fear of the right with that particular kind of “charisma” that they connect with.

        (Until someone smart figures out the formula and finds a new narrative to spin up the machine again.)

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          I hope you are right, but my highest fear is that Trump isn’t pusshing bills through congress.

          by that, I ean the congress is in control and want to pass such bills without loss of face.

          Then who better than trump (or whatever president) to autopen everything thatwas handled by a middle man, then make a show of “How Trump is bad and bullying us! Bwaaahhh!!!” and then just let the bill pass because that was the plan from the begining.

          But again, I really hope that I am wrong and spurting some tin-foil hat nonsense.

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            Oh he is definitely being used as a tool, but he’s only a useful tool for these purposes because of that political capital. He doesn’t design the bills, he’s dumber than shit and doesn’t even care about politics or the country. But he DOES care about being the “bossman” in charge, and he loves to use that feeling to flex over congress and other political stages, and he can simply because people are scared of his base and perceived mandate, and how unstable he is with his doling out of punishments and massive changes seemingly without any consequence, he strikes fear into agencies that he will just close them down if he doesn’t like them, conversely they also know that he gives rewards with equal unhinged, consequence-less fervor and will make people heads of agencies just for saying something nice about him, so he’s lit washington on fire with Chaos and that’s what his admin has wanted all along.

            Look at it this way. The new immigration policy, if you want to call it that, that’s not something Trump designed and planned. It’s entirely Stephen “The Slime Prince” Miller. But Miller would NEVER have gotten that through without Trump backing it. Nobody likes Miller, even the people who share his values or lack thereof. Since he’s so unlikable, he needs that mandate force behind Trump to get his way.

            Without Trump, the right and republicans can still do massive harm to our country, but opposition forces would have a lot more power against him, and everyone on both sides of aisle would have no idea what to do without him. They look around at each other and have no clue who is a real believer and who has just been going along with the flow. Without Trump the government will go back into standstill mode like it usually is, for better or worse. (Anything is better than the direction we’re going now.)

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    If he didn’t want to be called out on all the raping of women and kids then he shouldn’t have raped all those women and kids.

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      Even giving him the largest benefit of the doubt (that he didn’t earn), he hung out with Jeffrey fucking Epstein, known sex trafficker and child abuser. If I chose to spend time with him, even close acquaintances would judge me harshly for that, and rightly so…

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        You forgot a part: Even giving him the largest benefit of the doubt (that he didn’t earn), he , Trump, a convicted rapist on the state of NY hung out with Jeffrey fucking Epstein, known sex trafficker and child abuser. If I chose to spend time with him, even close acquaintances would judge me harshly for that, and rightly so…

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    What I don’t get is why Trump even cares. Clearly his “Grab 'em by the pussy” remark is telling you all you need to know about him and just as clearly, MAGA doesn’t care.

    Maybe it just really is the fact that his supporters have hyped up all those who are on that list not just as rapists, which they seem to have no problem with, but as the demonspawn in flesh. So Trump isn’t concerned that he may be labeled as rapist, as that label didn’t stick before, but as incomprehensible evil, or Clinton for short.

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      This is my concern once it officially comes out. Like every other silver bullet we’ve had, people will think this is what finally takes him down, but once he says “She told me she was 18!” they’ll be all “That happens to me all the time too! Damn lying women!” and that will be the last we hear about it unless they use it against Democrats. I can’t honestly believe anyone would be shocked his name was on the list.

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        “That happens to me all the time too! Damn lying women!”

        — 43-year-old man still living at home

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            Honestly the creepiest stories I’ve ever heard are those where someone has been living in someone’s house without them knowing.

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              So every time you leave your house, do you no longer live there? Do you always live exactly where you are at that moment? Like if you are traveling and someone asks you where do you live, you say “right here.”

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                Nah but if I’m away from home for a week or a month then I’m living somewhere else.

                I haven’t been homeless for a long time though. That sucks and I see the number off people living in cars and tents growing. :(

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        This is a good point. It’s almost better that it hasn’t been released since the MAGA revolt appears to be from the idiot section that buys into conspiracy theories, not as much the conscious soul-selling for power section (i.e. the people who were to dumb to already know he was a creep vs the people who 100% knew and just didn’t care so they could win).

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          I want those people who were hurt by Epstein to get justice, but with the current situation basically being the president is protected from anything, having it come out now seems the worst outcome. Having the unknown eat away at them is likely the best realistic thing right now, unfortunately.

          If this comes out and just “goes away” after a couple days, I’m worried what that could do to the present handling of similar crimes. If society at large decides trafficking is no biggie, I think that could be really bad.

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            Considering what happened with J6, the Mueller Report, and the dozens of other red lines that have been crossed and just shrugged off in a few news cycles, this would just be adding to the list of things that our society has tacitly played😭. Hope for justice and accountability, but I have doubts now.

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      “Demonspawn in the flesh” is definitely the case for some of them.

      It’s not that they’re just molesting kids, there are theories that they’re “[harvesting adrenachrome[(https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/pseudoscience/qanons-adrenochrome-quackery)” from them.

      The stage was now set for QAnon’s perverse fabricated tale that a pedophile ring of Democratic politicians and Hollywood celebrities is engaged in satanic sacrifices culminating in slurping the blood of massacred children.

      There’s a joke that was going around a while ago about a conspiracy theorist who (somehow) made it to heaven:

      When he arrives at the Pearly Gates, God is there to receive him. “Welcome. You are permitted to ask me one question, which I will answer truthfully.”

      Without hesitating, the conspiracy theorist asks, “Who really shot Kennedy?”

      God replies, “Lee Harvey Oswald shot him from sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. There were no accomplices. He acted alone”

      The conspiracy theorist pauses, thinks to himself, then says “Shit! This goes higher up than I thought…”

      See, the thing is that these conspiracy theorists will never believe the truth, whatever the truth is. They’ll always think the conspiracy goes even deeper.

      So, even if maybe he could survive being linked to having sex with teens, the problem is that his base believes that the “sex with teens” is just a cover for something much worse. All he’d be doing by admitting to sex with teens is to admit he was part of the satanist cabal. So, his only solution is to deny and deflect. But, denials just make it seem like he’s hiding something. And, while deflecting normally works for him, this is a foundational conspiracy of the MAGA base. This isn’t just some odd side-conspiracy like Obama conspiring against Trump, or Twitter suppressing news about Hunter Biden’s laptop. If there is any one central conspiracy uniting the right, it’s the child sex trafficking stuff.

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      Lol what. I’m sorry, I ain’t MAGA but truely the majority of his supporters are absolutely furious. They do care

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        They are furious, but not because Trump is a child diddler. They are only outraged because Trump is not releasing the files.

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          It’ll be easy to see just how mad they are next year around this time when they’ve all moved on to the next outrage of the day.

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    Guys, this is bullshit. He may be slightly annoyed, but he is totally protected, he and his administration have zero concerns about any consequences. They are untouchable. Particularly so due to the fact that both parties and their wealthy benefactors are implicated.

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      His political protection has cracked and faded slightly over this, and he’s upset that if it keeps up he will become exposed.

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              He isn’t worried about reelection but GOP members of congress are. If he loses their support, he’s toast. This the only issue on which they have ever wavered, because exposing an elite pedophile cabal is a foundational belief of some of their base.

              But like you say, we’ve been in similar situations before and Teflon Don has so far always slipped between the fingers of justice. We’ll see.

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                  It means congressional Democrats would find it easier to flip Republican votes against his appointees and against him personally with impeachment and removal from office, amongst other things.

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            You think the most embarrassing man on earth, this guy:

            You think he’s afraid of embarrassment?

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              Absolutely. He hates being booed or, worse, laughed at. He does this dance in front of adoring fans who love him no matter how cringe he looks to others.

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                  No, agreed. However, this issue is bad optics for him and he hasn’t so far been able to distract the media like before (partly because some of them have finally wised up to such tactics). He doesn’t like the situation and the media know it, so they are keeping the pressure up to see what happens.

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      But this also means that they have a bit less control over the news. That there’s an actual discussion instead of just “president did this, president did that”

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        They don’t give a shit what we’re discussing. It’s all speculation, nothing is actionable.