• PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    Ok but the driver ain’t getting charged for that shit right? Sounds like self defense but the “racist slurs” part has me worried bro’s gonna get profiled

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        Mr. Warren was within his right to exit his vehicle and verbally challenge the manner in which Mr. Magnuson was addressing him," Gibbs’ memo reads.

        What the fuck. That is NOT self-defense.

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          The investigation found that Magnuson had acted aggressively, repeatedly taunting Warren with racial slurs and later punching Warren in an ensuing confrontation.

          A memo published by the prosecutor’s office says that Warren’s actions were “in kind” to Magnuson’s escalation. Witnesses said that Warren had attempted to discuss the matter before things became violent and that he appeared “exhausted.”

          Yes it is

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            tit for tat is not a defense. he started it by getting out of the car to confront the man for no good reason.

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              So what? He was just supposed to continue having slurs hurled his way and not get upset about the fact?

              Fuck out of here with that bullshit mindset

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                  Sorry Mr Perfect not everyone has no breaking point, we’ll send you in the next time we need someone to withstand torture though. fkn hell lol

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                  a person subjected to racist slurs is by default the better man than the one hurling the racist slurs.

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                  We’ve had over a decade of “when they go low, we go high” - how well has that worked? Maybe you’ve eaten too many vegetables amateurishly grown in contaminated backyards?

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              He got out of the truck because the guy was flipping out at him, and chose to use racist insults to provoke him. A simple proverb that could have helped that racist fuck: don’t let your mouth write a check your ass can’t cash ✨

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                that’s not a good enough reason to get out and is just begging for trouble. it’s extremely aggressive.

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                  It actually is, there’s a legal concept for fighting words that basically acknowledges you can’t prosecute someone for getting provoked when the other guy was very obviously trying to provoke them.

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                  Truck driver didn’t throw the first punch, though. Extremely aggressive would be provoking someone with racial epithets and then proceeding to punch them when they pull over to respond.

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              Talk shit, get hit. That’s how free speech works. You can say whatever the hell you want but words have consequences and consequences can suck.

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              he started it

              Eeeeh, no? The other guy was hurling racist remarks at him. He went to confront the guy. That is not starting it, that is following up.

              Once the other guy delivered the first punch, the other guy started both the insults and the fight.

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                he was exercising his free speech rights and you think that deserves death?

                following up

                when has that ever solved anything peacefully when the other person is yelling slurs? getting out of the car was the worst possible decision.

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                  Freedom of speech is not freedom from speech bud, don’t act like an asshole and not expect to be treated like an asshole.

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          It’s not about self defense. As long as you match, and don’t exceed the aggressor’s energy, you’re within your rights. If someone punches you, you can punch back but you can’t pile drive the guy, but you can hit back just as hard.

          The punch the FedEx driver threw wasn’t meant to be fatal and was an acceptable retaliation after being verbally abused, then physically assaulted. It’s not his fault the aggressor was glass Joe.

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          Unless you have been physically attacked or have a reasonable belief that you will be imminently attacked, physical violence is always unwarranted. Everyone arguing otherwise is a violent dumbass.

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            Cool so you agree that getting out of his vehicle to talk to the guy was alright, since there was no physical violence until the other individual threw the first punch.

            Glad we got that straightened out.

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    I hate to break it to you brother, but that guy was not sent to heaven.

    Also, self defence argument holds here. Someone was running his mouth, he also ran his. Someone threw a punch, he returned fire. No escalation. Self defence

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    Ok, I’ve heard about those that get punched once and cry, but this is a whole other, video game level shit.

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      San Francisco just held its annual wild costumed (or naked) race yesterday. Reminded of this story:

      I can’t stand fighting or videos thereof. Hitting someone means you’re willing to kill someone. Surely only happens <0.1% of the time. But should be reserved for safety issues (self defense), not genitalia measuring.

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      It happens if you get hit in the head. The skull isn’t actually all that good at protecting the brain after all.

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    Damn that sucks. Pretty sure he didn’t want to kill the dude. Big guys need to keep pepper spray on them. Guy I knew threw a retaliatory punch outside a club. Recipient’s head hit the curb. Dead as latin. Now that guy’s in prison. Not fuckin worth it.

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      I’m a really big dude and that shit terrifies me. Some people like to target fat folks thinking they’re out of shape. And I am very, very out of shape.

      But the fact that I can get out of bed and walk up stairs effortlessly means I’m incredibly, incredibly strong. What most people lift when maxing out is what I lift every time I move.

      If I throw a punch in anger, I could easily kill.

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        Calm down bro, being overweight is not turning you into Mike Tyson immediately. You know, an unskilled fist punch to the face of another man can also result in hurting or partly breaking your own hand.

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          Iunno bruh it sounds like he studied the blade :D But fr if he’s big enough to knock you down, its the pavement - not the punch that kills you.

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          Eh… Mike Tyson isn’t famous because his first punch hits hard, it’s because he can do more than a few swings and knows what he is doing.

          The point the other commenter was making is that there is more force behind a punch from a large person vs a tiny person. Not that they have some magical fighting ability because they are overweight.