• MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com
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    7 days ago

    Actually the reason life is such utter shit and the world is spiraling into chaos is BECAUSE of the patriarchy. There is a vast majority of “normal people” that don’t care about much else besides having sex and raising kids. When you’ve chosen to spend your life supporting a family, you don’t have room to give a single flying fuck about the dangers authoritarianism, gay/trans rights, concentration camps and general cruelty governments and corporations are always comitting against the masses. Even pretending to care about this stuff can undermine your ability or freedom to raise a family in some places. This leaves the rest of us on our own to fight the obviously losing battle with all the miserable pieces of human trash that want life to be hard “because fuck you that’s why/suffering brings people closer to God”.

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    Segregation of labor really started just recently. Go back 10000 years and you’ll find a more even split of roles. 10000 years is fairly evolutionarily negligible- we’re largely the same, aside from some immunity quirks, homeostasis tweaks, gamete peculiarity, and cultural differences.

    Pluck a baby from way back and raise it today and you’ll just be raising a pretty average immunocompromised baby.

    All of that to say, “women should be in the kitchen for their own good” is unsupported by an even slightly broadened perspective. I’m pretty sure Vikings aren’t coming to rape and plunder your 200 person town, bud. Hiding your wife away is just abusive.

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      Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSRs policies pushing more women into these careers.

      People don’t realise that these norms they hold as dogma are so short-lived and subject to change that opposition only shows them unable to comprehend history past their lived experience.

      It’s ashame they have to drag us down with them.

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        While true, there is other issues with gender inequality in Eastern Europe like relatively higher domestic violence towards women and legislature to enable it in countries like Russia.

        Inequality is a complex issue and needs to be looked at holistically. I have a feeling that often there is a focus on work and “career” although later seems to be mostly measured in some women who made it to C-levels. In that sense it remains an issue of women being supposed to “function” in a narrow line, rather than the system as a whole being questioned.

        More women working full time is sold as a success of emancipation, despite it meaning more work overall for women who have children as some care work is difficult to delegate. At the same time it is a massive loss, that a lot of “life goals” like owning your own home require two full time income or just aren’t reachable any more despite higher education levels.

        When it comes to single parents, poverty becomes a strong problem and it helps enable abusive relationships as people are economically compelled to stay with an abusive partner. This issue moved on from the stay at home wives to women working full time too.

        More income and less working hours are needed generally, and should help emancipation of women even more. In the eyes of capitalists that would be a grave “malfunction”.

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          9 days ago

          Shit dawg all you had to say is citation needed.

          Thornton, A., 2019. Gender equality in STEM is possible

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            Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSR

            around eastern europe -> contries in eastern europe that dont support this claim dont count obviously

            due to ussr -> ussr not mentioned in citation

            Anyway, this is a way too broad statistic that clumps together tons of fields which are actually pretty split. Basically statistics gerrymandering.

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        I’ve seen some people talk about that as the harmful legacy of the USSR.

        Mind you as a female engineer I agree with the communists about women.

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      During the golden age of the “American dream” where a man had a car, a house, and a family, didn’t the housewives end up relying on all sorts of pills and shit to not go crazy stuck in the house all day?

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      10000y is an incredibly long time if you believe the earth is only 2000 years old, or whatever these idiots believe.

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      If i go into the kitchen it tends to annoy the husband as i’m intruding upon his Golden Triangle.

      Unless there’s tea being made.

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    It’s crazy that people like this actually exist. Like don’t you have your own problems to solve? How do you even have time to pedal this sexist garbage.

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    9 days ago

    This is in contrast to men, who will bring about a utopia without hunger, homelessness, war and crime. Wait.

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      See the men will bring a utopia of hunger, homelessness, war, and crime. And if you call it anything other than a utopia they’ll act as though you’re spitting on the very foundations of Omelas.

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    The ONLY way this can work is if the men also choose to act with submission to their wife, children, and home.

    It’s almost like it shouldn’t be patriarchy, but two people who love and respect one another as EQUALS in a PARTNERSHIP.

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        Because anything else will bring destruction in varying types and magnitudes, from “guess I didn’t get to live a happy life” at 80+ to “these maniacs have devasted half the globe for hundreds of years” and more

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          I think we’re going to destroy the globe even if we had total equality between sexes

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            Oh no, we can’t even exactly end life on the globe (but significantly fuck things up - yeah). And humanity going over this “man/woman is supposed to X/Y/Z” bullshit also means humanity being more mature. Question is, do we get there before some idiot does put everyone in the ground. Can’t say I am sure we will

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        Voluntary submission regardless of gender is fine, but the full freedom to make your choices including whether or not you submit is vital to avoiding a gender based class system which is innately destructive

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    8 days ago

    they malfunction and destroy civilizations

    …much like politicians these days!

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    This man, and all men (yes, all) who hold this belief are actually weak men who are jealous and threatened by women. They need therapy to address the root cause of their toxic masculinity, not arbitrary power over half the population.

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      Also the culture that causes toxic masculinity in first place needs to change, any amount of therapy alone won’t fix the situation. Treating it only as a personal problem is like treating symptoms of a plague but leaving it rampant. But how to nuke the idiocy on a cultural level…? Things seem to have even taken a turn for the worse lately…

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      7 days ago

      Yeah and also the “civilization” women destroy is purely the put men first civilization - the only civilization they’re interested in

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      Yeah. I mean we keep trying, but they, kostly men, and mkst consistently these exact men keep getting in the way.

      To misattribute a quote to a much cooler misogynist: the creative urge is also a destructive urge.