Jason Bassler | @JasonBassler1

Big Brother just got an upgrade.

Starting December, Amazon’s Ring cameras will scan and recognize faces. Don’t want to be in their database? Too bad — walk past a Ring and your face can be stored, tagged, & analyzed without consent.

One step closer to total surveillance.

[Image: A Ring doorbell camera mounted on a brick wall. A digital overlay shows facial recognition scanning a person's face with grid lines. Text on the right reads “Amazon's Ring Adds Facial Recognition to Home Security” with additional text below.]

6:00 PM | Oct 4, 2025

Source: https://x.com/JasonBassler1/status/1974640686419857516

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    4 hours ago

    Does anyone have an actual source? A twitter link to a screenshot of another twitter post collage is bullshit sourcing.

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    5 hours ago

    We should make dazzle makeup standard when going outside. It’s the perfect fashion trend for today.

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      Same here. All private cameras that record or process data from a public space need to be announced on entrance of a property. Though now that i think about it, idk how ring got passed that law to begin with in 99% of its use cases…

      ( if its a front door that can only view private property its fine iirc, and if it has public space like roads its a nono )

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        Same as non-legal ebikes perhaps? Where I live the police don’t seem to care unless the rider happens to be a drug dealer or otherwise wanted by the police.

        I’d take a guess that while a ring doorbell might be illegal and not enforced, it probably means the recorded footage might be not accepted in court if ever needed… Perhaps (I’m not a lawyer or even close to being an expert). Unless a doorbell inspector becomes a thing then it probably just slides.

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        idk how ring got passed that law to begin with in 99% of its use cases

        It doesn’t comply… but the responsibility falls on the person who mounts/uses the hardware, so Amazon does whatever they want.

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      12 hours ago

      I was gonna say, I’m not sure this would hold up to legal scrutiny, not that that makes it ok in the first place.

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    18 hours ago

    Ran into this one Halloween a few years ago. Fuckers had Halloween decorations out, seeming welcoming, and when my kid went up to the door they used their ring camera to make fun of him. Once society falls in the next year or two, that’s where I’m going first.

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      For legal reasons, he jusut told me in PM that he will go there to get more candy. He will take ALL their candy and EAT it in front of the ring camera.

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      17 hours ago

      Uploaded to a database. Linked to your meta data full of wrong think. Face blown off by a AI built and operated kamakazi drone.

      Sucks to be anyone that looks like you, but that is a price the 1% are willing to pay for complete control. Because what’s left after you own all the wealth and assets?

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    I really don’t care what Amazon does with Ring’s facial recognition. The populace doesnt give a fuck and trust me, I tried to give a damn but its like going up against a tide of stupidity that keeps smashing. No one bats an eye with Costco/WalMart/Target facial recognition software, let alone caring enough how companies like Apple sell your data or manipulate your wants/needs down to the pervasive marketing tactics that are threading the line of psyops.

    Idiocracy came a lot sooner than expected and there is no closing that Pandora’s box. I still try to refrain from and mask my digital footprint, but sadly with how how easily our data is passed around like a ladyboy aboard a navy ship, we’re doomed

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    Americans are fucking weird, they piss and moan about speed and red light cameras, and claim they are unconstitutional. However, the Ring shit is good to go.

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      19 hours ago

      Ring cameras don’t toss a fine at you for walking past them too quickly.

      Also, where are people complaining about red light cameras, so I can avoid taking my bike or car anywhere near there? It’s probably a vocal minority, but I’d prefer to know and cover my ass. Just in case.

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        Nah Ring cameras will just toss police to your door because you look loosely like a person of interest in a case.

        Good think police visiting houses doesn’t lead to the death of innocent people on the regular.

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        18 hours ago

        So just people can’t perceive longer term costs. Damn the government can decrease this backlash so much by just billing from their liability insurance directly instead of sending the fine to the person.

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        they even have speed cameras now, any slightly above the speed limit of a street will imediately give a warning, and fine if it occurs multiple times. you can easily accidentally go over like 5 miles above in an empty street.

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          Hell if your car is old bitch like mine you may run into the problem of your speedometer being very minutely off. It’s nothing massive just a mile or two off, but my 01 Tacoma doesn’t have cruise control so I can’t be cautious that way so it can be problematic.

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          So you drive over the permitted speed limit put in place to protect pedestrians on “an empty street”. And you’re complaining about getting multiple warnings before getting fined for ignoring the safe speed limit? You ‘accidentally’ went over the speed limit multiple times on the same street, but the rules shouldn’t apply to you I guess, your highness.

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    23 hours ago

    I don’t know if it is the same brand, but my morning walks are cheered on by an increasing chorus/wave of “hello, you are currently being recorded”. Weird dystopian vibes.

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    We need to normalize spray painting the lenses on these things, as well as painting “big brother” on doorways of those that own them. If you enable fascism, you should expect some minor vandalism.

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      You could start by sending them a letter that informs them of this occuring and how it impacts the world around them before you skip straight to vandalism. I’m sure a lot of people just never considered the extent of that data that is being shared so much as they figured only they would have access to the footage.

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    And you’re always seen as a “weirdo” or “crazy” or maybe even a thief if you want to opt out with a mask.

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    Great, my downstairs neighbor has one of these things that everyone has to walk by when going in or out of the main building. Why she needs one in an apartment building with a locked main door that you have to unlock yourself for guests is a mystery to me.

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      Simple - Because she doesn’t trust the strangers living in the building any more than the strangers on the outside. I don’t blame her one bit. In my lifetime, I’ve seen countless stories of women being raped and/or murdered by other tenants and the complex 's own security.

      In the olden days, before electricity, I used to be friendly with a neighbor, and she became convinced that someone was sneaking into her apartment when she was at work, and stealing her underwear and prescription meds. She took a day off because she was under the weather, and one of the maintenance guys, who was always overly-friendly, unlocked her door, and walked right in.

      It turned out that he’d been warned about this before, and he was fired. But if she, or other neighbors, had Ring cameras, they would have caught on to him immediately.

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        A camera inside her apartment would have the same results without invading the privacy of every other tenant in the building.

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          In that specific case, but most people want to identify people BEFORE they enter their promises. I’m not opening my door to any cops, for instance, unless they can slide a warrant under the door.

          You are missing the point entirely. There are about a million reasonable reasons someone would want to have a doorbell camera, and they have every right to them. The owner of the camera isn’t violating your privacy, AMAZON is doing that by collecting the data from a privately-owned source who hasn’t given permission to hijack data from their device.

          Don’t be mad at the tenant for protecting their safety, be mad at Amazon for exploiting that reasonable fear, encouraging people to get Ring cameras, and then stealing the data they collect.

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            There are also a million ways to achieve the same goals without agreeing to be Amazon’s snitch for your entire building. Amazon isn’t stealing the data. The ring camera owner sold everyone out.

            Also, just so we’re clear, the maintenance worker still had access to her apartment and could have just lied about the reasons. It would not have stopped him in any meaningful way.

            “But she would have known who it was!” … yeah, AFTER he was inside her apartment. It doesn’t even do the one thing you’re claiming it would be useful for.

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              Yeah, except if he knew everyone that entered the apartment at any time was recorded, it would maybe have been a deterrent.

              Her other option could be a hidden nanny cam trained on the door so she’d have proof she wasn’t crazy.

              But again the issue isn’t people wanting to know who is outside their door, or entering without their knowledge. The issue is the camera companies keeping all the footage for themselves.

              We have an off brand camera aimed at our porch for porch pirates. It’s not going to get someone walking by on the street. We have it only recording to the sdcard.

              But we can live view and it alerts through the app. We don’t use the cloud service or AI. But there’s nothing stopping the app from screenshotting alerts and sending them somewhere.

              I’m trying to figure out how to have an actual closed system so only computers under my control can access camera(s)

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            Is it too much to ask for a doorbell camera to operate like a doorbell? We’ve had peepholes on doors that can be opened and checked when needed for years with no problem, why do we suddenly need constant surveillance of the public commons? This is also on the owner for buying into the scare tactics.

            IMO it should be flat out illegal to have any permanent camera that monitors a public space. I don’t consent to have a stalker track when I enter and leave my home, I won’t consent to have a neighbor do the same.

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        In the olden days, before electricity, I used to …

        Are you like 200 years old?

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          Maintenance in apartment complexes always have access to any apartment, in case of fire, overflowing bathtubs, inspections, deaths, smoke detector battery replacement, etc. They are supposed to give 24 hours notice, but the point is that a nefarious character could gain access to any apartment in the complex, if they don’t keep their master keys secure.

          We had a case recently of a murder in a gated complex. A maintenance guy got obsessed by the 19 year old daughter of a resident, and eventually kidnapped, raped, and murdered her. All because he had access to the master keys. They ended up passing some law under her name. I think they have to do a better job of clearing their criminal backgrounds, which would have caught this guy. It seems like keeping the master keys under better security should be a major thing, too.

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            That’s nuts.

            Like, the landlord/maintenance people here do have a master key, but it doesn’t work unless the flat is locked from the outside and set in a particular position. If you lock it from the inside, or don’t put it in the special position, they can’t access the flat.

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              There are inside devices that could stop someone with a master key, like chain locks, but you have to be in the apartment. Once you leave, you obviously can’t set the chain, and anyone with a master key, or is a good lock picker, can get in.

              I’ve never heard of setting the bolt a certain way, except maybe in hotels. Even then, it only works if someone is physically in the room.

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                This is how my door works. You lift the handle to engage the bolts in the doorframe (otherwise the lock doesn’t even turn), then you can turn it either a full rotation, and pull it out, or turn it a full rotation and then about 45 degrees further. If the slit points downwards only people with proper keys can access. If you turn it slightly more, so it’s at an angle, then it’s in “service mode” and people with service keys can also access it.

                You can’t put it in service mode from the inside.

                If it’s fully locked and you want access for some reason, you’ll have to call for a locksmith. Alternatively remove the entire doorframe from the wall. It’s reinforced though so that’s going to be a hassle. The door itself is some kind of thick metal. Great soundproofing.

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      If they have more than one and you can’t avoid them all …. The press release says they will be able to trace your route on the property