• Poxlox@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Nah fuck squatters too. Everyone sucks here but squatters are just as trashy. We need to have a vacant homes penalty desperately but yeah that won’t happen anytime soon if ever in my lifetime.

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      We need to have a vacant homes penalty desperately

      Technically that’s what adverse possession or squatters rights actually is.

      The general criteria(without state specifics) for legal squatting is incredibly difficult to fulfill though. It’s not reasonable to achieve in the majority of situations.

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        Right now there is a penalty for not keeping it vacant. Say you’re an elderly homeowner in Los Angeles. Your husband died 15 years ago when the property you bought in 1970 for $35,000 was worth $500,000. The tax basis resets from $35k to $500k. But now the property is worth $2 million and you need to move into a retirement home due to your health. If you sell the house now, your family takes a capital gains tax hit on the $1.5 million of appreciation. If they wait until you die, the tax basis resets to current market value. If you make the qualifying event the move to the retirement home instead of death it would save on taxes but would give your kids a powerful incentive to move you out. Tl;dr most of the vacant homes I’m personally aware of are owned by elderly people with health issues.

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    There seems to be the implication within that quote that because he’s brought a melee weapon, the party being attacked is bound by honor not to use a firearm.

    In fact he’s probably putting himself in much more danger by bringing a sword (thereby providing a self-defense defense) than if he showed up unarmed.

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      Aren’t most of squatters are relatevely poor people, who cannot easily buy a gun unless they are a part of a gang?

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        This is a country where there are more legal guns than there are people. You don’t think ANYONE ina bad economic situation is traveling with the gun they owned before they lost their housing?

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          Assuming that this law even exist in such country, your statement does sound logical. Still, I cannot understand why then no one is trying armed revolution against the current government if everyone knows about current USA president? I mean, in other countries people do such protests without guns in many cases and achieve success. Like in Ukraine, for example.

          P. S. Yeah, I kinda changed the topic. Sorry.

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            Because huge chunks of the country continue to love him. He might be leading us into economic collapse, but at least he’s being shitty to brown and queer people, which is obviously the most important thing.

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    7 days ago

    If you were a tenant and you are getting kicked out you should have different rights like a proper eviction and a court date.

    If you just broke in you should simply be removed by the cops on penalty of law if the landlord lies and you are actually a tenant who was illegally evicted.

    This is what the law in liberal wa state is.

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      In theory yeah, but squatters rights do exist for a purpose of keeping abandoned buildings from just decaying if you can show you’ve been maintaining it in the owners absence. Now I’m not saying that they’re used like that now but that is their actual purpose.

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        I wish to God squatters would quietly drill out the locks on an old abandoned property, occupy it and slowly fix it up and just go over to whatever agency 5 years later with the documentation to show it and say “by right of labor and occupancy this house is mine.”

        I just doesn’t seem to be how it works in places with tolerant squatting laws. The way it seems to go is some enterprising criminals will run off some fake leases, gain entry to a home that’s only temporarily unoccupied, and then when the owners come back they ask them for money to leave. And then the owners give them money, and the squatters either leave or they don’t.

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    Who the hell passed a law allowing squatters to be able to take away the title after 5 years,that’s freaking nuts. Can literally just steal property.

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      Yeah, it does seem a little weird in our hyper capitalist society for that law to be on the books. I also think it’s extremely wasteful for somebody to not even use a property for 5 years in a world where land is a finite resource. I think a better solution would be escalating tax rates based on number of properties owned and then if a property goes unused for fucking years it can go to the state to then be auctioned off for cheap. It might help reset property values instead of the ever rising investment market we have now too.

      I’m a big proponent of use it or lose it. And a functioning society wouldn’t have a squatter problem.

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        So, the 80 acres of forest land I own and pay taxes on should be taken away from me because I will never develop it into something useful?

        If I don’t pay the taxes on it, it will get taken away by the government, but that’s a different matter.

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          Parent didn’t say develop, they said use. 80 acres of forest can be used as open space and not developed at all.

          I think the spirit of parent comment was that if you have 80 acres of forest, but you live somewhere else and never set foot in it…well, maybe that land could be better used/enjoyed.

          If you live on/near it, and enjoy it for some purpose other than strictly as an investment, that seems like you’re utilizing it.

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      Yeah, in Arizona it’s 2. Much better.

      (If an owner is so disconnected from their property that they don’t notice someone living there that they didn’t allow, have they really lost anything?)

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      they sorta strongarmed a similar incident in oakland, a family from missipi/or missouri plus a group of other 5 families were living in a house the govt, and public supported the takeover it. the house was sitting empty because of a corporate landlord, hoping the empty house would raise in value over time, which is a problem all over the us. and the corporate landlord sold the house to the families, through a “organization”. they had hordes of other houses sitting empty all over the place.

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    I’ve read about this guy before. He’s got an amusing variety of methods. Squatters ruin homes, sometimes destroying them entirely. House across the street from me burned this morning because of squatters who kept breaking in. Someone would have saved the house eventually, now it’ll be a parking lot. Who is helped by that?

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      7 days ago

      is it even legal for “this vigalante” to threaten the squatter with a sword, it seems like something it can backfire.

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      Well, he can simply scare them off. Also, this may be not a real sword but rather a collectible from Amazon, that can cut you but also relatevely easy can break down if it meets something sturdy enough like another piece of steel on its way. Basically, it is easier to buy a good military suitable machete rather than a proper sword. So, maybe he uses intimidation factor and doesn’t cut people often.

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        If I wave a gun around, I’ll catch a brandishing charge, whether or not I actually plan to shoot anyone, it doesn’t even have to be loaded.

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    Well, this is how they will develop melee experience.

    And then we will all be carring swords again.

    At least guns are egalitarian.

    Yes, I am ducking.

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    What about hiring a bat-wielding man to scare squatters out of your vacant home by swinging the bat from time to time like Jack Torrance in Stanley Kubrick’s horror film The Shining (1980) and exclaiming, “All I want to do is bash your brains in, bash them right the hell in!”, to see if that will scare the squatters out of a home they don’t own?