• Hadriscus@jlai.lu
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    5 hours ago

    I’m super disappointed. I had sympathy for the guy, the superman of my childhood. Anyway

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    That’s literally his backstory. He’s a refugee from another planet that’s like the whole point.

    Imagine being this goddamn stupid.

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      5 hours ago

      Well, Ackchyually…

      The “Superman isn’t an immigrant” is a bad faith argument… but I think it’s technically correct.

      Being an immigrant implies intent of moving from one country to another, which Superman didn’t have. Especially since he came to earth as a baby and has no ties to krypton. I wouldn’t call someone who was born in another country and was adopted as a baby into another country and immigrant.

      Superman does explore themes of immigration from its conception. Though it’s worth noting that if viewed from this perspective, it’s a very old fashion American model of immigration, that might be viewed negatively today - he adopts his American upbringing in every meaningful way, especially his values, while his own culture is abandoned (nearly?) completely.

      Supergirl, on the other hand, is an immigrant.

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        Superman is an immigrant created by two sons of immigrants.

        His parents sent him to Earth to have a better life (any life at all really). Something similar happens in reality where parents in Central and South America send their children, alone, to the US.

        Also happens with babies adopted from other countries. You may not consider them immigrants, but the government sure as hell does. There’s quite a bit of immigration paperwork that needs to get filed in order for one of those adoptions to go through.

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          Err… Superman’s an immigrant because the parents of both his creators were immigrants? Is that actually what you’re saying?

          His parents sent him to Earth to have a better life (any life at all really) - Right, that was my main dilemma. Not saying you’re flat out wrong, but I think ‘immigrant’ exists in a cultural and social context. Let’s go over some examples:

          1. A woman gives birth on vacation
          2. A family moves to another country has a child and then moves back when the child is 12
          3. Having a child a day before immigrating.
          4. Having a child a day after immigrating. I’d say 2-4 are immigrants, because they and society would probably view themselves as immigrants.

          If he were human, the government would consider him an immigrant - Legal status is irrelevant.

          Superman didn’t have to translate things to his parents because he knew English better than they did, his upbringing didn’t give him an outsider insight to the culture that surrounded him, he doesn’t have an accent or not can code switch from English to Kryptonian, he isn’t viewed as different by his peers. He was raised as a whatever-generation farm boy from Kansas.

          He does have Kryptonian heritage, which would make him closer to second generation immigrant. Just like his creators.

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    12 hours ago

    Ignoranus n. Someone who is both ignorant and an asshole.

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    This is peak absurdity. You have a being from another planet, the being is sent from another planet because his planet was about to explode. In a last ditch attempt he was sent to earth by his parents. It surely sounds like a person who could be identified as an immigrant, illegal alien or asylum seeker.

    Did Covid make dumb people even dumber? Ignorance certainly is bliss…

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      These people want to be evil but hate being told that they’re evil, so anything with an anti-evil message must be “woke”.

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      Funny thing is I’ve been calling Superman an illegal immigrant for decades. All of the sudden it’s not a joke anymore. It’s a friggin comic book hero for crying out loud.

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      Did COVID make dumb people even dumber?

      No, they were always that dumb. They probably just projected themselves onto Superman because he’s a strong white man and clearly strong white people cannot be illegal immigrants because that breaks their pathetic little power trip fantasy.

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        This is specifically comments by Dean Cain, a man who once played Superman, but didn’t seem to actually pay attention to any of the scripts, because he became a right wing grifter.

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      I dont know how legit was the research methodology, but I did read a paper somewhere that even asymptomatic covid decreased peoples QI for a measurable ammount.

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    I’m going to guess that James Gunn isn’t going to take career advice from…checks notes…Dean fucking Cain.

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    DUDE! In the 1940s they called Superman an immigrant… HE IS A FUCKING ALIEN!

    Also he was an ILLEGAL alien! His escape pod landed outside some childless couple’s farm house in the mid-west, and bless their hearts the first thing they did was adopt him.

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    Trump’s wife is an immigrant. Trump’s parents were immigrants. Many people who are immigrants don’t like immigrants because immigrant is code for “someone I don’t like for x reason”.

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    Anyone who just read the headline needs to actually go read the article. It’s not very long. Not that the headline is misleading, he absolutely said those things, but the whole thing is just the most deranged rant. Cain somehow got from being mad about changing the slogan to “truth, justice, and a better tomorrow” to immigrants want to make America into Somalia in two moves.

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    Remember when they had to define woke for some court case? The definition was something like acknowledging that there are inequalities in society. Superman’s whole schtick is that he’s morally good and has a ton of power but doesn’t resort to authoritarianism. That seems pretty “woke” to me, too.

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    He’s literally an illegal alien. Like, according to every definition of the words.