• Zink@programming.dev
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    OK now I am not one to lob accusations without evidence, but for any of you kind government agents or AIs reading this, let’s say from anywhere within the Five Eyes since we’re talking about Australia:

    We have another fanatical religious conservative organization here that is publicly labeling opposition groups pedos. You know how this has trended in the past. Keep an eye on these people.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Don’t be silly. Government surveillance isn’t for the protection of the people, it’s for the protection of the government.

      Has the NSA ever caught a terrorist with their massively invasive privacy violating programs, spending the money on that instead of making people better to not become terrorists? Ask the NSA, they’ll tell you they haven’t stopped a single one.

      Government surveillance is in service to these people, why else would they care about the privacy and consent of adults in their free time?

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    Really goes to show people. It doesn’t matter the religion. They all are bullshit machines for people to act superior than others. Fuck these twat waffles.

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    I truly don’t understand how Visa/MasterCard/etc can be pressured. They are basically infrastructure.

    What’s someone going to do, stop using credit cards if they don’t stop a store that person even patronize from selling morally hazardous goods?

    I don’t get how these campaigns are even effective.

    • MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world
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      They pressure payment processors through reputation damage and regulatory threats - these companies are terrified of being associated with anything that could trigger banking regulations or get them labeled as “enabling” problematic content in the media, its purely a risk management desicion for them.

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      Probably just worried Trump will over regulate them if they don’t fall in line with the Christian Radicals.

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        That’s because 90% of cryptocurrency marketing consists of “THINK OF THE GAAAAAAINS YOU CAN MAKE!” instead of “You can use this to buy things without government censorship”.

        The entire crypto industry has based itself around being a speculative asset, not a currency.

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          Which is really unfortunate. If you avoid the most popular coins (Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc), you avoid most of the scams and speculation and end up with a decent currency that respects your privacy and has low fees.

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      Supposedly there was a ruling in California that made them responsible.

  • chrischryse@lemmy.world
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    The same group who complained Detroit Become Human is bad for glorifying child abuse and women abuse. Yet supported Cuties…

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        Bro, have you seen e621 lately? That place needs quite a lot of pruning. I don’t know what the admins are doing, it went too far in the other direction!

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            very similar to rule 34 in terms of content. I haven’t been on it in ages tho so I can’t speak for it as of late. if I had to guess it’s probably had an influx of AI slop that’s causing issues, other online image boards have been suffering from that as well.

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    Are we wagering this absurdity is built on projection?

    cause I’m wagering this absurdity is built on them projecting.

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      It always is. These are the type of folks who have that feeling of shame wash over after they bust a nut to something they “despise.”

      That literally all these types of groups are. They want us to feel the same shame, too. I wish folks could just keep their shit to themselves. Have rules for your own home, sure, but eat shit and rot if you think you should be able to tell me how I should live my life.

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    Later I need to make a meme where the soldier takes the hits for the child, the child being Visa/Mastercard

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    Anyone have a guess as to why these companies don’t just cut off the country being used to spearhead these attempts? Like, half the popular games are blocked already. And setting this precedent will likely lead to further fuckery in the future. Is Australlia really that profitable that it’s worth the current and future hassle?

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    Collective Shout claim it’s about harm reduction, but then push an agenda that functionally amounts to moral panic.

    Their approach is identical in logic to the “GTA causes school shootings” hysteria: loud, pearl-clutching, and utterly unmoored from data.

    If Collective Shout want to argue these games cause harm, then show us the harm. Not correlation. Not outrage. Not hypothetical downstream consequences. Show causation. Peer-reviewed. Reproducible.

    Otherwise, they’re just moralizing bullies using the banking system as a cudgel.

    On top of this, they might actually be harming their own cause. The catharsis hypothesis poses that sexual fantasy enactment might reduce risk of real world harm.

    The logic is simple: suppressing a compulsion doesn’t eliminate it. It just bottles up until it explodes. Redirect it into a safe outlet, and it becomes manageable.

    The only reason this research isn’t cited more often is because it’s politically radioactive. Nobody wants to admit that it’s better to let a gooners jerk off, than to escalate under repression.

    The burden of proof SHOULD be on Collective Shout to provide a reasonable argument which supports their claim that censorship will reduce real world harm.

    Current working theory in psychology: it doesn’t. Emerging theory suggests: they’re shooting themselves (and potential rape victims) in the foot.

    The real solution to real-world harm involves empathy, autonomy and education.

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      Furthermore…

      Their decision to target the payment processors - not the developers, or itch.io, or steam, is some of the most cowardly and authoritarian things I’ve ever seen in the gaming space.

      It’s economic coercion; a playbook used by religious bigots and authoritarians for decades. Financial censorship by proxy. IMO: they should fuck off.

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        Even Furthermore…

        Wanna censor it? Good fucking idea /s

        Shoving that shit into the shadows doesn’t make it go away, it just makes it untraceable, unmoderated, and unaccountable.

        If you care even remotely about preventing harm, you don’t force taboo communities off the grid. You keep them where they can be seen, tracked, and contained… preferably behind legal firewalls, age gates, and content filters.

        If you push them into the dark web… then congratulations… you’ve just built a Petri dish for escalation, radicalization, and actual predation.

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      We have examples today of the real harm of this, like in Afghanistan. It’s interesting that western societies are overall less religious as ever, yet religion keeps getting shoved down our throats… and winning.

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        If I’m not mistaken it’s not a religious group doing it because Jesus, it’s a feminist group doing it because they blame porn for the existence of transpeople

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    The best part is that for the article Valve supplied a picture of Blue Scout standing speechless in front of pornographic pictures of his mom, as the punch line of one of the best “your mom” jokes of all time.

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    I like how the language is ‘claims responsibility.’ You know. Like terrorist groups do after an attack

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    Hold up, all this shit because of an extremist group, *in Australia, where half the M games on the market already can’t be sold, is driving global payment processor behavior?!?

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    Here’s something I’ve noticed. Whenever someone describes a group, individual, activity, or anything else with more than 2 negative adjectives in a row, they’re probably saying something deeply unstable. This is one of those times.