Hate the fact Ed gets all the shit for not showing the spine, while little to no consequence for Robert Kraft, apparently the man who blackmailed Ed. Like okay, you can blame a multi millionaire for choosing money over humanitarian cause, but are you guys seriously going to drag him through the dirt while the actual culprit sits upon his billion dollar stash? Like wtf, this guy literally cornered ed, and all that happens to him is people are reminded he’s in Epstein files. That’s genuinely unfair.
The problem is means to inflict consequence. Access.
Sheeran is an entertainer, so we as a public mass have obvious ways to impact him - stop listening to his music, and complain to companies that depend on our participation (radio stations) that we don’t want to hear him.
Most of us have never heard of Kraft. We do not know what discretionary things we can stop doing to hurt his career. He is a billionaire who owns property and business - so he is less vulnerable overall to public outcry.
And you know who is even less vulnerable and more culpable? The current government of Israel. Why arent we attacking them? They are the ones actually guilty of the genocide. Why? Lack of access.
Really, the only way to systemically support Palestinians is to support democratic candidates at the federal level who will shut down US subsidies to Israel.
But people are terrified of our democratic machine because our populace has put its own maniac and his goons in twice.
Compared to facing the existential dread of likely needing some kind of civil conflict here to desperately try to correct the balance of power to something more humane…
Calling radio stations to complain about Sheeran feels pretty good.
Gotta give Europe for giving Israel the shit they deserve. Except Germany.
while little to no consequence for Robert Kraft,
Today is literally the first time I have encountered that name.
I guess I’ll have to do some research to discover who he is as what he’s done to earn the internet ire.
This is only a half truth. It sounds all nice to give Ed a break and put all the blame on Robert Kraft. That’s a nice fantasy land to live in, but Ed has a responsibility here, and he is failing to live up to that, and criticism of Ed is completely warranted and justified.
I don’t get how Ed is more responsible here than Kraft. The man who literally wanted Macklemore out of the tour for his views, and the one who blackmails Ed Sheeran by threatening his career, and you somehow believe Ed is the one more responsible than Kraft?
Look, Ed’s rich, he has more money than he can spend in his entire life. He was in a position to defend Macklemore, but he chose to not. That’s where his fault lies. But him getting the worst of it instead of Kraft? That’s not fantasy, that’s just people choosing the easier target of the two.
Infact not holding Kraft responsible is exactly what man like him wants and is sending a message that he can do it again, and people will just blame the artist not him.
The absence of Ed Sheeran songs is barely distinguishable from their presence.
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How long until Ed Sheeran starts his “Why I left the left” grift?
I have not heard one of this songs and I really have no idea why he is famous.
Someone more up with the drama - what did he do exactly? From what I gathered - he organized the tour with artists who were going to do it (the speech), he never protested it, didn’t say anything to Macklemore, allowed all to happen, even came out with a pro-palestine statement, but everyone here is seemingly acting like he was the one who did all the pushback.
Sure, could have a bigger spine, but I don’t quite see what he did so wrong he deserves amongst the biggest hate waves I’ve seen online.
Would it have been better for him and Palestine to never have organized this so that it never have happened? Do you seriously think what happened was a direct harm to Palestine by Ed?
What pro palestine statement? The one where he said he didn’t want to take any sides, and by doing so, took the side of non resistance, supporting Israel in their genocide?
He decided money is more important than supporting an anti-genocidal message. He’s got every right to do so, but everyone else has got every right to call him a fucking pussy who doesn’t have the balls to stand up against a venue boycutting his long time friend because of a few anti-genocide opinions. The venue he ended up siding with had no problem having Kanye West praise Hitler on stage a year or so ago. So do you see why this makes Ed a fucking wanker?
I mean all his supporting acts had bigger spines.
So just to be clear, the hate is not about what he did, but what he could have done better? The only option for him was to cancel the tour and pay a cancellation fee of around 70 million (10 shows).
Dude organized the whole thing, it naturally received pushback, naturally billionaires did their ultimatums, and now Ed is getting absurd amount of hate because he chose not to pay them 70 million but rather just finish the thing?
Yeah, I still don’t quite get it.
I guess the best option here for everyone would have been to avoid any pro-Palestine artists and it should have been a smooth ride for him, with no hate-wave that’s happening right now.
I guess the best option here for everyone would have been to avoid any pro-Palestine artists
This is precisely the wrong option.
So you’re then inevitably saying he made the right choice, but simply isn’t the person to yell at others or burn shit down, yet we expect him to, and that’s why we hate him(?)
No.
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Supporting the Palestinians is the right choice.
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Supporting people supporting the Palestinians is right but to a lesser degree.
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Not supporting people supporting the Palestinians is wrong.
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Not supporting the Palestinians is wrong to a greater degree.
Ed Sheeran is in camp 3
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He could have done anything to fight back, have the lawyers make an argument kraft broke the deal by firing macklemore, so sheeran wouldn’t be liable. Go on stage and maliciously comply with the performance.
I guess you have a point i dont really know the details, did he hire replacement backups?
Maybe if he goes on stage alone and even says “hey i have to do this show or else i owe $70M” then does an uninspired solo acoustic performance, that would be quite admirable.
I guess as far as i know, and happy to be corrected, he got replacements and still does the shows as best he can, which really is the most cowardly thing he could do in the situation.
Knowing Ed, he already did enough by organizing the tour which ended up bringing attention to the cause. I expect nothing more of him. Therefore I cannot hate something that’s fully expectable and normal. What he did was better than not doing anything, and now we (well, you) all hate him for it lmao
The more I think about it, the more fucked up this is. Straight up bullying.
So he organized a tour so that his zionist patrons can make more money, and when they fired the pro-Palestinian musicians that redeemed his capitalist musical tour for zionist profit, he said OK and moved on with the tour.
The more I think about it, the more fucked up this is. Straight up bullying.
Yup.
You can’t expect rationality from the Palestine mob.
How do you rationalise pro-genocide?
Do you seriously think what happened was a direct harm to Palestine by Ed?
An excellent point.
A shame it’s taken this long to get his “music” off the airwaves. It should have happened years ago.
Everything I’ve ever learned about Ed Sheeran has been against my will.
I feel a tiny sorry for Ed (not that a guy who has an estimated £400 million net worth needs my sympathy), but he’s just some
poorrich schlub who’s been planning to tour around a bit, play some uncontroversial songs, earn another hundred million, mind his own business and then… kapow!.. he’s front and centre in a fight that’s he’s clearly ill-equiped to even interact with.“Whuh? I just wanted to play some bland music and earn enough money to buy myself a ginger island. What the flip is going on?”
kapow!.. he’s front and centre in a fight that’s he’s clearly ill-equiped to even interact with.
You say that like artists - especially Irish artists - haven’t been front and center on agitating against the Palestinian Genocide for years now.
He organized tour full of pro-Palestinian activists, ffs. Mackelmore isn’t some new figure, either. Jumping on popular leftist initiatives is kinda his brand.
If Sheeren had formed a band with Greenpeace, would he be blindsided when they started talking about the environment?
Like, I’m half inclined to give him some credit just for putting this thing together. Better to have it implode on you than to never tour at all.
Did Ed suicide bomb his career in the name of Palestine? Maybe
Maybe I’m reading either comment wrong, but I think the person you’re replying to was being ironic. Perhaps.
Ah, I’ve seen this take posted a few times sincerely.
Kraft said in a statement on Instagram: “I have dedicated much of my life to building bridges between all people. I believe deeply that all lives are worth protecting.
That’s like saying ‘all lives matter’ in response to the Black Lives Matter movement; it’s disrespectful of the point being made.
It’s just more Epstein-class waffle.
Tax billionaires until there are no none of them left.
Building bridges between the fascists and everyone else, so the fascists can do their thing
Kraft is an Epstein customer and human trafficking expert. Lowest of the low.
What bridges has he built, I wonder.
“Oh well this one time I built a bridge between my accountant, and my finance guy, and this stadium I wanted to buy”
bridges to nowhere, my friends
It’s like thinking reverse racism is a thing.
I’ve lived in a place (and visited a couple others) where being a white person meant being subjected to suspicion and discrimination. It wasn’t reverse racism, it was xenophobia and plain old garden-variety racism. Being on the receiving end was highly instructive, as were the supportive comments such as “but we don’t mean you, you’re one of the good ones.” There were also cases of extreme discrimination and abusive behavior towards minorities that, to an outsider like me, seemed almost exactly like the majority population.
He very literally tried to pull a “I can’t be racist, I have black friends” because he’s worked with a couple people who happen to be Palestinian
I married one, and I’d never say that. Even after decades of marriage, having learned the language and having lived in the Middle East for years, there are still some unwritten norms and cultural differences that occasionally take each of us by surprise and lead to misunderstandings. We muddle through. Our kids are more fluently bicultural.
i only ever heard white people(who are racists) use the term of reverse racism, its likely they need to be a victim.
But it is a thing… People can absolutely be racist against white people.
You are technically correct; people can absolutely be racist against white people.
Now I’ll explain why you’re being downvoted anyway.
“Black Lives Matter” became a slogan because police disproportionately target black people. They stop and question black people at a far higher rate than is warranted by actual crimes, they arrest people at a far higher rate than white people, and they kill black people at a far higher rate than they kill black people.
The statement is very obviously not just a literal statement on the value of human life; it’s an accusation that police seem to think black lives don’t matter. “All Lives Matter” simply pretends to be ignorant of the entire background and reasoning behind the phrase.
Israeli’s have been massacring Palestinians and leveling their cities. They have inflicted orders of magnitude more suffering on Palestinians in the last years than Hamas has during its entire existence. The only way to equate the two is if you believe that Palestinian lives are worth significantly less than Israeli lives, and yes, that would be racist.
I think people assume I’m saying that white people are victims of systemic racism, which is not at all what I said.
I don’t have the sociological definition of racism at my fingertips, but IIRC it includes the need for a power imbalance, which is generally why people push back when folks say that minority groups can be racist against against white people. Our entire country was (arguably still is to a large degree) set up to where there is a huge power imbalance in favor of white people.
If you just want to make the very real point that white people are victims of bigotry also sometimes, rather than get into this repetitive debate about whether there can be racism against white people, IMO you can just say “bigotry” or “racial prejudice” and carry the same message you intend to without having to have this tired debate about whether white people can experience racism.
Unless you aren’t tired of the tired debate, but I know I sure am.
Just to make things even more complicated, there can be a power imbalance at a macro level that favors group A over group B, whereas at a more micro level, there can be situations where the power balance is reversed. I’m a white kid who grew up in a barrio (long story) and I experienced that at an early age. I got the shit beaten out of me many times because my face didn’t fit, as well as being on the receving end of disparaging and sometimes threatening comments (especially when I was dating one of the girls from the neighborhood).
So I think you’re onto something with the terminological distinctions you’re making. Equating “racism” with “systemic racism” gives a lot more truth to the “white people can’t experience racism” claim. But along with systemic racism, there’s ad-hoc racism and related forms of bigotry that can run counter to the prevalent bias.
Still, if my name were Gonzalez instead of my very common Irish surname, and I applied for a university place or (even more) a job, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to be treated more negatively, even with the same qualifications. I’ve seen it happen to my friends and neighbors.
There’s a whole, long discussion to be had about intersectionality, and about the fundamental incommensurability of the many possible axes of privilege and oppression. I’m not motivated to get into that now, but undertanding it makes some otherwise counter-intuitive observations make more sense.
No you said reverse racism is a thing
It’s not.
Because that implies racism only works from white->non-white. Which definitionally, is not true. This entire concept is itself, racist.
The actual reverse if racism would be like… Super equitable treatment of everyone, it someone. Not swapping the direction of races doing the biggoting.
I mistakenly thought they were saying that it’s impossible to be racist against white people.
This is like having a conversation about menstruation, and then men being like, “I get cuts sometimes”.
No one fucking cares, if you’re talking about white racism, you’re just being self centered.
People don’t care, they make up whatever they want to feel good about themselves. The definition of “racism” has no specific race, it’s like murder, it’s murder if xyz criteria are met.
If an African American doesn’t hire ANYONE based off race/skin color, it’s racism, period. Even if it’s other African Americas. Caucasians aren’t magically excluded regardless of how bad you want them to be. Typically, at least in my experience in education, most African Americans are happy with racism as long as it’s in their benifit, because they have some weird ass belief that it’s impossible for them to be racist somehow.
Yeah that’s just called racism. White people don’t get a special prefix when it happens to them.
That’s basically my point, though.
If that had been your point, you would never have felt it necessary to say that “reverse” racism is a thing.
It isn’t at all. Your “point” is that you’re somehow unable to understand the meaning of the word racism. Look and think about the word, it’s not “Anyone but whiteism”. The skin color or whatever else doesn’t matter, racism is racism no matter who it’s against. It’s just astounding how fucking dumb you gotta be to reply like you have to a comment chain about “all lives matter” in response to BLM, all you’ve managed to do is show everyone you’re just as stupid and ignorant as the people who say that.
But it is a thing… People can absolutely be racist against white people.
It’s not a thing. If someone hates another person based on their race, that’s racism. This idea that it only applies to hate towards black people is very much a US only issue. The rest of the world understands that racism towards any person is wrong.
Technically you could argue that “reverse racism” would be explicitly liking someone based entirely on their race, and nothing else. But even that’s a stupid way of looking at it.
would be explicitly liking someone based entirely on their race, and nothing else
That’s definitely a thing: fetishizing people because of their race or some other characteristic. I know some weebs, for example, who get deep into that groove. I also have known people who have a kink about having Black sexual partners. And I know two Black women who each like to date white guys and do roleplay with them that involves racial abuse. Both are upper middle class and highly educated. I find all of those fetishes weird, reductive and creepy. But maybe that’s just me. Others might draw their lines elsewhere.
I also know couples where the partners are from very different ethnicities, and they’re not all weird about it. For example, I didn’t get with my wife because of her ethnicity, it was about her intelligence, character and (OK, I’ll admit it) strikingly good looks. I knew nothing about her culture at the time.
That’s definitely a thing: fetishizing people because of their race or some other characteristic
I know that’s a thing, but would you call that “reverse racism”? That’s the point I was trying to make, that such a term is ridiculous.
I was responding under the assumption that the statement about reverse racism was saying that it’s impossible for people to be racist against white people.
The rest of the world understands that racism towards any person is wrong.
They understand that it’s just called racism, but it’s not universally seen as wrong. There are a lot of countries with significant racial prejudice, besides the US. Thinking it just doesn’t exist elsewhere is naive.
Thinking it just doesn’t exist elsewhere is naive.
That’s not what they said.
They said everywhere else thinks it’s wrong. I guess what I said technically isn’t the same, but if everyone thought it was wrong it wouldn’t exist. Regardless, my point still stands that it isn’t seen as wrong everywhere else either. There are a lot of places where it’s seen as normal, or even good.
Their point was that thinking there’s a one way directionality associated with the term between specific races is a seemingly unique US perspective. Elsewhere that directionality doesn’t exist and it’s understood that it can go any direction, even if the bigotry exists there too.
They understand that it’s just called racism, but it’s not universally seen as wrong.
That’s actually a valid point. But I was speaking in a more general sense, in that literally nowhere else in the world will you hear the phrase “reverse racism”.
A certain small, racist faction of white South Africans also uses it, and I’ve also heard it used in England by far-right idiots.
Read the room.
The room can be wrong
you are confusing racism and prejudice, but from your doubling down, seems like you’re confused quite often.
I don’t know where this bullshit incorrect take came from but it needs to stop.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
I’m not the one who is confused.
I’m not saying white people are victims of systemic racism, but individuals can absolutely be racist against white people because of their skin color.
And I’m not saying you’re technically wrong, but you’re “all lives matter”ing it. It’s not the topic here so you bringing it up implies that you really want it to be heard regardless of the topic at hand and it makes you sound like a racist prick.
Not just read the room, they are a moron.
You don’t have to be rude, they are literally using the word racism as defined by dictionaries. There are two separate definitions usually listed, one is belief in a races superiority over others, the other is the systemic bias against a racial group. Since 2020 at least it’s been common that people have used it to mean specifically only the second definition and use other terms like racial prejudice for things like prejudice against white people but it’s used that way still plenty.
When people mean the systemic part, they include the word systemic next to the word racism. You can’t just assume it’s implied and get pissed when people don’t understand your made a last mental shortcut combining two things.
I thought reverse racism was like… when you overcorrect for discrimination and end up discriminating against white people? Not just being racist against white people.
No, it’s apparently white people who think they’re being systemically discriminated against.
I incorrectly thought it was more of a way of saying that you can’t be racist against white people.
you do realize what reverse racism is right? its white people being racist against other white people.
That’s not how the racists that use that word, use it.
No, they actually can’t be. Because “white” is not a race.
Look up the history of that term. Most of the people who are white now would not have been 100 years ago. And still no one can agree whether hispanic means white or not.
ETA: The whole idea of race is a social construct and a fantasy with no basis in reality, much less biology. By stating that “white” is not a race, I did not mean to imply that the idea of race is legitimate.
I did not mean to imply that the idea of race is legitimate.
Yeah. Race, in general, is a fundamentally unsound way to categorize people. Humans are clinal in every single characteristic associated with race. Attempting to boil a multidimensional continuum down to a binary distinction is a fool’s errand.
And jesus isn’t real either but christianity still exists.
Yeah, “white” is a race as much as anything else, which is to say that it’s such an overgeneralization as to be harmful.
I think the funny thing about racists is that they don’t care and it doesn’t have to be consistent.
‘Black’ isn’t a race either.
What’s your point? Do you really think I was asserting that “black” is a race?
Kinda. You seem to be arguing that one can’t be racist against whites because white isn’t a race. Do you think that holds that one can’t be racist against blacks because black isn’t a race?
True, but how many places are there where they both make up a significant part of the society AND that’s a prevailing enough attitude to cause them actual harm?
I wasn’t talking about systemic racism. I was talking about individuals being racist towards other individuals.
The point is that racism is hate because of race. People that are oppressed by a certain race hate that race because of the oppression, not the race. It’s not racism by definition.
Hating people who have nothing to do with your oppression because of their skin color is racist. Full stop.
It’s like saying men can’t be raped because women are the majority of victims.
Im not even sure women are though, rape of males is extremely underreported.
According to the yapping loudmouths of the manosphere, at least.
No not full stop. That’s not an equivalent comparison at all and it really disturbs me that so many people agree with you. What an egregious oversimplification.
A crime is a crime. I’m not saying oppression gives a get out of jail free card. Hurting an innocent person is still wrong, but being afraid of an unknown person who is a member of a race that is predominantly cruel to you? Understandable. Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree? As a member of an oppressed race you exist in a world not too dissimilar to the movie “They Live.”
How can you know who is and isn’t your ally? It’s safer to assume they aren’t.
There is a lot of nuance to this very complicated subject.
Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree?
Absolutely not because race is a complete fiction and it makes no logical sense to group people together on a fantasy trait.
People that are oppressed by a certain race hate that race because of the oppression, not the race.
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Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable
Here we have ladies and gents, a perfect example of a racist that thinks he is not racist.
Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree?
I’m not who you are replying to but that sounds racist and I don’t agree you should attribute bad behavior to a race. There’s better and more accurate ways to attribute bad behavior, basing it on racial identities is inherently racist in my book, and inherently misleading.
Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree?
No, that is pure nonsense. It is not a “race” who is oppressing anybody. It is certain groups of people, usually a political and economical elite who are doing the oppressing. Conflating it with race (which is not even a real concept) is the epitome of racism and directing efforts at the wrong reasons. Oppressors love that kind of bigoted stuff, because it causes people to miss the actual factors of oppression.
Hurting an innocent person is still wrong, but being afraid of an unknown person who is a member of a race that is predominantly cruel to you? Understandable. Calling out that race for bad behavior is also acceptable, wouldn’t you agree?
No it’s not acceptable it’s just racism 101. A lot of racist white people think the exact same way about some minorities. Also systemic racism doesn’t need you to be white to keep it alive. Here in france there is a lot of racism between minorities. Following your logic it ok for them to hate each other? That’s just dumb
100% disingenuous word salad bullshit. Not even worth reading.
He’s saying he’s built bridges with murderers.
I hate how the Right can’t understand context.
“What? You think only Black Lives Matter? ALL LIVES MATTER! Wait I’m the bad guy for saying all lives matter? What the fuck?” - The Right said not understanding what Black Lives Matter means
The people who come up with those thought-terminating slogans know what they’re doing. The dim bulbs who repeat it might not understand, but their puppeteers do.
The issue is that they refuse to understand what it means.
Tbf the left has always been shit at messaging
It took 4 seasons of the boys with writing getting more and more blunt for conservatives to realize homelander was a metaphor for the US right.
It doesn’t matter how good your messaging is if the target audience is a brick.
They still thought he was a good guy and claimed the show went woke for killing him.
To the quote you attached: He created funnels attached to people wallets; not bridges.
the zionist entity sheeran is so cancelled at this point they have hired pikers chinese producers for content and the investment in the gaza re-education tunnels is almost complete
my hope is that with this cultural victory pop folk rock will be truely nine to five only
israel lives matter more to him. he became salty and got a bunch of other stadiums to ban macklemore. Oh and Kraft is on EPstein files too. apparently ed shareens manager is also in it?
I couldn’t name a single song by this guy.
The only one I know is the song from the Hobbit movie, part 2 I think? The “I see fire” one.
You’d recognize them if you heard them. They were ubiquitous on the radio 5-10 years ago
Nope. You can barely tell them apart from AI slop.
They sounded AI-generated before AI music was a thing.
That sounds like about the length of time I haven’t listened to the radio because I’ve had a personal device that can either hold or steam music from…
Depends on the radio. I only listen to Spanish public radio and it’s not a station that plays the same songs in a loop all day. It’s back to back curated radio shows. They don’t play Sheeran.
I can name exactly one song, and one song only by the dude; and I never actually listened to the song. (Shape of You).
There’s that Pokemon song
He did that one banger in Game of Thrones but I don’t know if it had a name. It was new.
“removed from the airways” at one radio station in Ireland
I was just in the Republic, and had a couple good pub conversations about Sheeran. When I was attempting a nuanced take on the subject, one guy interrupted me to say “Well, before you get into it more, you do realize he’s an unmusical cunt, right?”
But mainly, people were out demonstrating against Trump’s visit. “PEDO FUCK OFF” was one of the more concise placards.
better than none, hopefully the first of many
Imagine getting cancelled in 2026 for being a billionaire’s bitch.
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dint he grow up wealthy at least thats what i heard. of anything rich children who grew up with rich parents, never want to be “poor”
Maybe not wealthy, but definitely boujie. Privately educated, and daddy runs an art gallery. Not really a rough-handed son of the proletariat.
of anything rich children who grew up with rich parents, never want to be “poor”
I grew up poor. Didn’t have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. I never want to be poor again. But if I had to, I’d probably survive.
You can want to change the system that makes people poor, and still prefer living indoors.
There’s very few people who have made it to where he is in the music industry who didn’t. Not for any particularly nefarious reason (although there’s usually a bit of nepotism involved as these things often go), but because working in the music industry fucking sucks. You make almost no money when coming up and balancing a full time job with recording and playing shows means you miss out on opportunities all the time. Coming from a rich family who can support you while you focus on music full time drastically increases your chances.
Compensation in the music business is only adequate if you’re far out on the right tail of the distribution. Having backing from someone with deep pockets as you get to that point definitely helps.
I’m starting to get annoyed that Sheeran is getting all the hate, save an equal amount for kraft, people…
Update- folks, this was a joke. I’m not defending Sheeran here, merely also expressing my distaste for the rest of the players in this horrible situation.
We are supposed to expect better for Sheeran, or at least he makes out to be decent
People like Kraft we expect to be dog shit.
Sheeran deserves it…at any time he could stand for something.
That’s exactly it, we expected better. Regardless of if one likes his music or hates it, he’s built a brand on being a decent human being. Basically every story of him before this week has been one of positivity, I’m pretty sure his rider has always been something like a glass of water and packet of crisps, he’s donated a lot to good causes and generally stood up for those who need it.
Billionaires are parasites on society, and Kraft is the kind of man who influence global politics and facilitate ethnic cleansing to line his own pockets, and nobody is surprised by that.
Sheeran showed that the moment anything is on the line, his entire brand of kindness can be bought. I actually believe he thought he was making the non-decision in this, but that was clearly motivated by a desire to keep his brand out of a situation that is basically a for-profit genocide.
Unless he gets up on stage tomorrow’s show and makes a statement with some balls, his entire persona dissolves, and that is his brand. Sadly we all know he won’t.
He’s played at private events for Kraft and his agency manager was friends with Epstein & Ghislain
Yeah, Sheeran did some shit too. They have video or pictures on him. That’s why he folded so fast.
He deserves it. Check out some of the comments on Macklemore’s YouTube videos. Many of the repeated comments are calling out Sheeran saying “being silent in the face of oppression is choosing the side of the oppressor.” They are right, and a lot of people need to be called out in the same way, and feel the weight of their supposed neutrality. It’s about time some of these “apolitical” arseholes felt some heat.
Well said.
Apolitical = complicit.
Fuck Ed “I’m not complicit” Sheeran.
Apolitical= really means i am conservative, but i want to keep the “peace” and not BITE THE HAND THAT feeds me.
People like this are always “apolitical” as long as the Republican party is in charge and doing awful shit. They never want to talk about it because they’re aware of the optics.
Exactly. We need to make it uncomfortable to be apolitical. Only those with the most privilege can afford to be apolitical and we clearly have the power to change that.
Everybody already hated Kraft, he’s an Epstein perv.
and then there’s also the several cheating scandals in recent memory involving his nfl team (new england patriots)
That too
I think his music all was taken off the air as well.
It’s expected of Kraft
Others like Kraft will not change if they see consequences. They will double down. Others like ES will see this and recognize they can’t sit idle or try to “be neutral” in today’s world without consequence, and there is a chance they will change.
Kraft is a pos and doesn’t care about us and we can’t affect him much.
People like Sheeran have reach and can actually affect people like Kraft, and Sheeran chose not to do so.
this is a warning to other people of influence. be like Macklemore, not like Sheeran. use your influence for good, not to ignore evil.
Shareen did perform at kraft’s wedding, so hes pretty complicit, and likely is getting all these sweet venue deals because of kraft.
They can both be pieces of shit. We don’t have to choose just one.
I can hate both.
I am an infinte fountain of hate. More than enough for everyone.
I’m annoyed that none of this really matters but it’s all I’m hearing about right now.
The WMD’s make their way to Israel and their genocide continues unimpeded.
It absolutely matters, and you’re a fool to ignore this.
Many of us have been paying attention long enough to recognize just how much the average view of Israel has changed, and the response here is a big fucking deal.
The fact that this has so relentlessly and thoroughly fucked Sheeran, is a big fucking deal.
Because this would not have happened even like 3 years ago.
Fuck both of them
Enablers are as bad as the people they are enabling IMO
i can hate two things at once!
People here aren’t smart enough to figure out what you were saying.
Then be annoyed. No one has said massage parlor kraft is getting a pass here.
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He doesn’t deserve hate but he showed that he is very out of touch from reality on a sensitive topic.
He deserve hate he told Mac that saying free Palestine hurt the genocide supporters
I know exactly one 2012 song from Macklemore and one 2017 song from Ed Sheeran. And that is the extent of my expertise on their biographies.
This is the way.
