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    3 days ago

    I put bread in the freezer because ot goes moldy fast in this climate

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    Refrigerating bread slows down mold growth…

    This increasing the shelf life.

    You don’t have to refrigerate bread. But you can with clear reason.

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    Putting boiling water in the freezer is so useful, like you can cook it once and freeze it, then get it out when you need it and just reheat it a little.

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    Try living with a French room mate and find out what doesn’t go in the fridge. Hint: everything.

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    I live in a humid climate (especially in the summer), and if we don’t refrigerate our bread and tortillas, or any baked goods, they get moldy in like 4 days.

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      Have you tried freezing it?

      Refrigerating baked goods accelerates staleness, but most baked goods freeze well.

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        I’ve had bread in the freezer for months, I throw it straight in the toaster and it comes out like, well… normal ass toast.

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          Good to know, I recently started getting bread from a local bakery but it doesn’t last, I’ll have to try freezing it next time

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        Freeze it every time.

        If you’re anything less than a family of four, leaving bread at room temperature is just eating half a loaf of bread and then throwing away half a loaf of mouldy bread.

        Most supermarket bread has indeed already been frozen before you get it.

        I even freeze all the cakes from Costco, since they only seem to come in packs of about a thousand.

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        Only exception for me is tortillas. I mean they technically freeze well, but they will also stick together which would make quite a thick burrito.

        My parents always freeze them and I always forget until I’m there trying to make a burrito and it tears in half.

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          yup. tortillas go in the fridge so you can get individual ones easily. Staleness never really bothered me, but i do warm them up on the stove to improve malleability. And i like to get my burritos a little crispy on the outside to help seal the final fold. Now i want burritos…

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            I freeze tortillas, one trick to using them after they thaw is rolling the whole package a couple of times both ways.

            Still have to be careful separating them, but it’s no worse than a package of tortilla that has sat underneath too much weight for too long.

            This trick also works with tortillas that sat underneath too much weight for too long

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          Chuck them in the microwave or better yet put baking paper (which if i recall correctly you usians call wax paper or parchment paper) in between each tortilla before you freeze it to keep them seperate

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        This is the way. It’s all I do.

        If I’m going to use the bread in the next couple days? I’ll keep it out. Otherwise, I put all my baked goods/bread in the freezer, and extra freezer I bought. Keeps for months. 6+ months if you’re lucky and willing to deal with it being overly dry.

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      Same. I don’t get why people act like putting bread in the fridge is world ending. Unless your eating a whole loaf of bread in 2 days in the fridge it goes.

      That or you get a loaf of mold on the 4th day.

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            Also pan toasted toast with butter is way better than the toaster

            I just butter and toast on low heat and flip once the other side starts to feel warm

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              That’s so good and I do this too. I don’t actually even own a regular toaster anymore. I do have an old toaster oven. The timer on it hasn’t worked in years but I have other kitchen timers and it still cooks like a champ. It even has a convection mode.

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          Toasting! Doesn’t even have to be browned, doesn’t even have to go long enough to get firm, but a little warming up makes bread even better! :D

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      I had air conditioning growing up and my family tends to make desserts more in the winter.

      The first summer living on my own, I made a beautiful blueberry pie, and the next morning I took it out of the microwave (to keep bugs away during the night- I have since learned this was also an idiosyncrasy from my parents. Most people just cover it) and it was already visibly moldy.

      I’m glad I got a slice the first day, and I definitely learned a lesson but holy shit was it a surprise.

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      Same. In the winter here, bread can last two weeks, but in the summer it’ll mold in a day or two.

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      I too grew up in a humid environment and got used to using either a bread box or the fridge.

      Then I realized that our bread was just cheap sugar infused garbage, and that if you pay a bit more for better bread, it does not mold anywhere nearly as quickly.

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      I had 65% last weekend and since then constantly a bit above 50% in Switzerland. Usually around 30% unless it’s summer. How much is “humid” for you?

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      Well, yes…but 4 day old bread from the fridge is basically inedible as well because of the bad taste.

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        I’ve never had my bread get stale from being in the fridge for 4 days. You have to leave it in a bag or airtight container.

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          It just goes into the toaster. Works better than frozen bread with crystals.

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          Then you probably only ever had bad bread to begin with.

          Edit: I suspect all the down-votes are from the US/UK who sadly never tasted good bread fresh from the oven it seems.

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            Good (fresh) bread only lasts a day or two around my house, because it’s amazing and delicious and everyone just eats it.

            Average commercial everyday bread is going to sit around longer because it’s waiting on someone to feel like making a sandwich, or feel like having toast. It’s basically a pantry staple hanging out, waiting to get used. The fridge is fine for that.

            EDIT I see your edit - I think culture/lifestyle is also playing a fair part here as well. I’ve spent most of my life living in a rural area where nothing is walkable, so trips to the grocery store were once a week. If I lived in a place I could just walk down the street to a bakery and grab a fresh loaf, that would be different. But just because I don’t live in a walkable place doesn’t mean I’ve never had good bread.

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            I bake frequently, sometimes bread, sometimes bagels, sometimes sweets. If I leave any homemade goods out on the counter in the summer, they would get moldy even quicker than store-bought.

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            why are you comparing 4-day-old bread to bread fresh from the oven? wow yeah it really doesn’t compare, what genius observation. what kind of storage makes it as good as fresh bread from the oven, pray tell?

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              Buy less and only eat fresh 😎

              Stale bread, no thanks. Even no bread at all is better than that.

              But freezing it and reheating it afterwards also works OK for some types of bread.

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                Buy less and only eat fresh 😎

                But don’t you get it? Here in the US, we can’t do that because we’ve got to drive an hour to the grocery store once a week (or less)! Uphill, both ways, fording rivers and traversing icy mountain passes! Waaah!

                Obligatory NotJustBikes on how there is a better way

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            Downvoters are brain dead. Science aligns with the taste buds on this one. Freeze your bread, you degenerates! Doesn’t take terribly long to thaw, doesn’t become dry and stale af like fridge bread.

            Hi, it’s you from the future, older and wiser, take your fucking bread out of the fridge!

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            It’s freshly baked daily at my local market, not the kind that sits on a shelf for months. If your bread can’t last a few days in the fridge then it’s also probably not bread…

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              Please don’t ruin freshly baked bread in the fridge! Do you have no taste at all?

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                Once again it stays tasting exactly the same after a quick warm up in the toaster oven. Maybe you should clean your fridge.

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    Bread outside the fridge spoils fast. Bread in the fridge lasts longer but is less fluffy. In this household we refrigerate our bread and then toast it lightly if we’re going to eat it straight. Most of the sandwiches I make are toasted anyway.

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    My SO got a chuckle out of me because I instinctively put chocolate in the fridge. I grew up in a hot climate but I live in Canada now.

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          It changes the taste, though. Like, it’s probably not noticeable for cheap chocolate, as that tastes flat to begin with, but proper chocolate should be kept at room temperature…

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            It warms up and develops its taste in your mouth. Im pretty picky about chocolate quality but i still prefer the expensive ones below room temperature. Unless its like mousse ones. Maybe im just weird idk.

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            There are certain chocolates I won’t buy in the summer, because above 25 degrees they get spongy and below 15 degrees they are flat and hard. I think it’s why most drugstore chocolate in the U.S. tastes like cocoa scented candle wax. It has to withstand the heat.

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      Wait, yeah I guess it does make sense that people living in cold climates wouldn’t put chocolate in the fridge. TIL

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        The reverse is also true sometimes. Coconut “oil” for example is always a solid where I grew up, and it caught me by surprise seeing it actually being sold as a liquid in normal oil bottles.

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          I really enjoy coconut oil as a rough weather gauge.

          I cook with it a lot, but prefer it to be in liquid form for easy measure (which only happens in the warmer bits of summer here), so in winter, I keep a jar of it on top of a particularly warm heat vent.

          I keep my place at 60f/15.6c in winter or it costs a fortune to heat. When it’s relatively warm out, the heat doesn’t kick on often enough to melt it, but when it’s real cold/windy the entire thing will be liquid.

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            How are you able to keep yourself warm enough with 15-16c of room temperature, though? I can sleep with 18 and above, do daily stuff and touch water regularly without much hassle, but even that drains a lot of energy from me. Below 18 would be a high risk of catching an illness if I am staying home those days.

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              Heated mattress pads on my bed and couch, mostly. And a heated chair pad when working. They cost a ton less to run than filling a drafty space with gas-warmed air, and are mostly sufficient. A month of both of the big pads being constantly on, on high, barely touches my electric bill, but my gas bill for heat… I keep it that cold because that’s still around $200 usd/mth. If I bump it to 65/18.3, it shoots up to the $350-400+ range. And since I’m not actually comfortable at 18.3 either (26-33/80-90 is about my sweet spot), might as well just keep it at 15.6 and save the money :)

              So those, and fuzzy socks, fuzzy pajama pants, and a fuzzy bathrobe. Maybe a high-heat pad here and there, if I’m feeling luxurious or my back hurts. A friend of mine does something similar, but uses heated vest and socks to take the warm along with (rechargeable ofc).

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                  Yeah, I’m basically built for tropical environments. I’m cold at 75 unless I have a sweatshirt on. And I still wear that big fuzzy bathrobe through most of summer (I don’t have AC, and never have, but I do have dehumidifiers for when it’s really warm, and that’s generally enough).

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                Hmm, good to know. Electricity rates here are not quite good to go with electric heating, even if for a smaller area, but might be worth checking out to use from time to time. Thanks for the details.

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                  The nice thing about it is that this isn’t actually heating an area, it heats you and the mattress/blankets around you, basically making a microclimate in your sleepy cocoon. Very very efficient, even if your electric rates aren’t great (mine really aren’t either, but it still barely touches it, they just don’t use a lot of electricity). I put my heated pad under a padded pad to help retain and even out the heat, and it helps a lot.

                  Happy to help either way! So here’s some more info!

                  https://electricado.com/how-much-electricity-does-heated-mattress-pad-use/

                  Most of the below comes from that link-

                  60-100 watts is roughly average energy use, but you can get lower, and smaller pads will use less.

                  Energy Cost = (Wattage x Usage Hours) / 1000 x Electricity Rate

                  For example, let’s assume your heated mattress pad has a wattage of 75 watts, you use it for 8 hours per night, and your electricity rate is $0.12 per kWh. The calculation would be as follows:

                  Energy Cost = (75 watts x 8 hours) / 1000 x $0.12 = $0.072 per night

                  For one mattress pad for a 30-day month with the above assumptions, it would run you a whopping $2.16/mth.

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              Warm cloth. The problem is mainly that if it gets warmer during the day, then you end up having a lot of condensate from air humidity on everything and that is the perfect condition for mold to form.

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      I’m here for crunchy chocolate. Also really depends on what season for Canada definitely can get toasty.

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      I know i’m not the only one prefering chocolate refrigerated (and some variants frozen). Not the creamy type for me.

      Lindt with nuts is way crunchier in the freezer.

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        I keep Reese’s peanut butter cup minis in the freezer when family sends them (not for sale in Japan currently). My wife likes Alfort which are chocolate + biscuit cookies and turned me on to putting those in the freezer. Somehow, it’s much better that way; I didn’t expect the biscuit to be changed or, if so, certainly not better, but it is.

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    I’m the first generation that decided to keep bread in fridge. My parents used wooden box.

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    Someone I lived with temporarily kept the processed parmesan cheese (the dusty stuff in a jar) in the cupboard instead of the fridge. It baffled me.